“ B pillar. Pull off the lower B trim panel. Stick a knife under the airbag logo to pull it off, then unscrew the star screw, pull off the upper B panel. Short sharp quick firm tug on trim pananls to get them off.

Have a look behind panel to see what's rattling. There is not a lot in there.“

If only it were that simple, I believe it involves re welding of the flange joint! (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)

Here's the problem, you and I are typical LR owners of the past, something is not quite right, get the tools out and investigate. I don't have the tools in my hands most days, so it's an interesting challenge with a sense of satisfaction when it's done.

An awful lot of DS (cars in general) are bought on lease, it's a consumable, a darned expensive consumable that you were sold as a premium product. The owners think of them as an expensive white goods, they accept that it needs fuel and some of the more clued up might believe that it requires screen wash, apart from that there is the service every two years, but as they are only keeping it for four years, that means one service in it's lifetime.

It really comes as a shock that this very complicated machine has parts that don't quite work as described - nobody says anything about lifting the bonnet to top up the adblue tank with 5 litres of what looks like water every 5,000 miles. Add to this dealers who then require you to wait months to have these often trivial (to them) things fixed, and you have a recipe for a poor reliability. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

You need to take off A, B, C & D panels to get the ceiling down, but to get C & D off you need to take the boot sill trim & the side panels off. Done it about 3 times now & can almost do it blindfolded. Star key for screws behind airbag logos, 10mm spanner for the 4 tie down points in the boot, & a blunt knife is all you need to get under some panels.

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I had the Evoque on a lease plan, and the Adblue was easy, as there was a filler under the bonnet.

I buy a car to drive it, not to fix it. DIY is not my hobby, and I'm not a mechanic. I have a guitar and I can't fix it if something goes wrong with it.

Just because you have a washing machine, a food processor or a fridge or ... another white good such as a car, it doesn't mean you have to repair it. Mechanics are experts at what they do, and I'm an expert at what I do, and I don't expect a mechanic to be able to do what I can do.

If buying a LR, RR or Jaguar means having to fix serious faults and take it apart myself, then these makes are not for me.

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Lightwater wrote:

You need to take off A, B, C & D panels to get the ceiling down, but to get C & D off you need to take the boot sill trim & the side panels off. Done it about 3 times now & can almost do it blindfolded. Star key for screws behind airbag logos, 10mm spanner for the 4 tie down points in the boot, & a blunt knife is all you need to get under some panels.

Click image to enlarge

Once you pull the car apart you will be surprised just how simply they are put together.

mrsimon4x4 wrote:

I had the Evoque on a lease plan, and the Adblue was easy, as there was a filler under the bonnet.

I buy a car to drive it, not to fix it. DIY is not my hobby, and I'm not a mechanic. I have a guitar and I can't fix it if something goes wrong with it.

Just because you have a washing machine, a food processor or a fridge or ... another white good such as a car, it doesn't mean you have to repair it. Mechanics are experts at what they do, and I'm an expert at what I do, and I don't expect a mechanic to be able to do what I can do.

If buying a LR, RR or Jaguar means having to fix serious faults and take it apart myself, then these makes are not for me.

mrsimon4x4 wrote:

Lightwater wrote:

You need to take off A, B, C & D panels to get the ceiling down, but to get C & D off you need to take the boot sill trim & the side panels off. Done it about 3 times now & can almost do it blindfolded. Star key for screws behind airbag logos, 10mm spanner for the 4 tie down points in the boot, & a blunt knife is all you need to get under some panels.

Click image to enlarge

Once you pull the car apart you will be surprised just how simply they are put together.

why should anyone have to go to all that palaver?