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Bluemacs



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Fire Extinguisher

It was suggested on a previous thread that for driving in certain European countries you require to have a fire extinguisher. There's the possibility that the BM family may be headed that way so I had a quick rake about 'tinternet looking for a car one without much luck.

Has anyone out there got one for their FL2 which would tackle a conflagration but fits neatly but handily in the car?

Slainthe,

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Post #39256 23rd Mar 2009 8:55 pm
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Dougden



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I bought this from the company I work for as we are all things security - And a bit of other stuff!!

But I believe that Halfrauds have a good range of extinguishers from a couple of reputable manufacturers.

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I know - Location?? But it will be great for when I have that unexpected fire.......in the boot. FL2 TD4 XS Santorini

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And always make sure Doug that you don't have a fire when the boots full Laughing Freelander 2
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Bluemacs



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Aye, you don't want a fire when the boot's full of whisky/brandy. Laughing


Btw, what kind of extinguisher, powder or foam?


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markconnor33



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All the extinguishers I've seen for cars/home use tend to be dry powder, as it's pretty universal and suitable for use on virtually all fires.

I can vouch for them making a nasty mess though, as had to use one to put out a fire at the back of my 3 way caravan fridge - won't be using that on gas again!!

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anglaslt



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If you've got a Sainsburys Homebase nearby they normally have them in stock.
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Neil



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I am in the fire industry and have been teaching motorsport marshalls & teams in fighting car fires for 10 years. Anything smaller than a 1kg powder will do nothing for you, 2kg is best. This will only give you about 10-12 seconds of use and make sure it has a guage; most of the DIY domestic & supermarket ones dont. There are good & bad brands but I wont get into that here on the forum!

Don't try to be a hero, if you catch it whilst its small you will probably save the vehicle contents but the vehicle will probably be a write off.

Statistics show that only 5% of vehicles on the road have an extinguisher ( inc taxis, buses, trucks etc that have too) and that 85% are actually used to put out fires in another vehicle...

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I have used extinguishers twice , once on a brand new chicken shed with a wiring fault, I saved the shed but there was still a few £1000's worth of damage for the electricians insurance to worry about, And once on a borrowed forklift truck, my neighbour hadn't cleaned the accumulated dry straw from around the turbo for a while Confused .

Both times a few pounds spent on an extinguisher saved lots of hassle and expense Thumbs Up


Edit. I also once used an extingisher at school but its best not to mention that Twisted Evil At work
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As someone else involved with motorsport can I add to what Neil has stated. If you do get yourself a 2kg minimum size extinguisher every so often (i do it before every event) remove it from the car, turn it upside down and shake it to make sure the powder is powder and has not been vibrated into a solid block by the movement of the car.
Some fire fighters also advocate a smart tap on the canister with a hammer handle to asist the operation.

To mark connor you were very lucky and got to the fire very quicly as I have seen two caravan fires over the last 40 years and both destroyed the van completly within 3 minutes, but do not tell CG.

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I regularly undergo live fire training, there is no substitute for fighting a 'real' fire.

I have only ever used a fire extinguisher 'in vain' once when the fuel tanker I was driving caught fire. I was really glad I had received live fire training because it gave me the confidence to use the extinguishers at my disposal. I was able to discharge 3 X 9kg dry powder units before the professionals arrived.

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[quote=]"Bill Turner".
To mark connor you were very lucky and got to the fire very quicly as I have seen two caravan fires over the last 40 years and both destroyed the van completly within 3 minutes, but do not tell CG.
Bill Turner.[/quote]


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Why would people ever let young children sleep in such a gas hazard tinderbox with added mattress foam?
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[quote="chicken george

A few gallons of kerosene poured in the window before you light the blue touch paper ensures a rapid burn Thumbs Up .
Why would people ever let young children sleep in such a gas hazard tinderbox with added mattress foam?
Even the top gear 'experts' managed to burn in their van Laughing[/quote]

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Is there a way to mount an extinguisher under the front of the drivers seat? The landrover extinguisher talks about a seat bracket?

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athelstan



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We have a 2kg powder extinguisher with gauge.

It is fitted to the rear/centre console side of the driver's seat so that it is in easy reach of all the vehicle occupants. It is secured to the frame of the seat so that it is able to move with the seat forwards and backwards. The extinguisher is "housed" in a red thermal sleeve cover which was originally designed to keep the Swiss Sigg alu water bottles cool when you are on a hike.

Note: In many EU states and Switzerland you are required by law to carry a fire extinguisher - and - it must not be in the boot! How strictly enforced that regulation is, is another matter. However, just like the new French "must carry a breathalyser" these requirements do carry an on-the-spot-fine which is usually €90.

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