GundogSD4 wrote:

Our 64 plate Metropolis is the first FL2 we have owned but a pal has a 10 plate auto and it feels and sounds like a very different car to travel in... like chalk and cheese you might say, I dont know what the exact differences are but ours feels better built smoother and quieter somehow.

I had a 13my freelander and although very nice and practical always thought it second to the three discovery’s I’d had before so bought a discovery4 I started to have jitters with hearing a number of crankshaft failures on said vehicle so bought an evoque and am very pleased with it,its a 2.2 with nearly all the bells and whistles,it has a much more modern interior than either the 4 or freelander and as said is a very nice place to be although the boot is smaller but is adequate for what I use it for. I personally did not want the ingenium engine as they can be troublesome with oil dilution.

I went from a FL2 to an Evoque Dynamic Lux. Yes, it is smaller inside but big enough for our needs - just the two of us and a dog crate fills the boot but it is a joy to drive round the twisty lanes in dynamic mode with virtually no body roll (be careful though, later so-called 'Dynamic' models didn’t have the Dynaride suspension as standard). Can’t speak for the standard models with 18” wheels (the dynamics have 20’s). Interior spec, being Range Rover, is a bit more premium than the FL2 and it is very comfortable on long drives. Initially I missed the opening sunroof and the armrests of the FL2 HSE but the other bits make up for it. Definitely get the 2.2 not the 2.0 and the later 2.2's had the 9 speed gearbox which I hear helps with economy and acceleration but I’m happy enough with my 6 speed. I’ve had mine nearly 4 1/2 years now and apart from an electrical glitch just after buying it which was done under the warranty, all I’ve had go wrong with it was a passenger front door lock last October. When the 2 year approved used warranty expired I didn’t renew it. I maintain it myself and apart from servicing I’ve changed brakes all round (upgraded fronts to the larger petrol discs), battery, tyres, gearbox flush, haldex service and timing belt and water pump replacement. I wouldn’t go back to an FL2. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

Thanks Steve, sounds like it's been a good choice for you.

Seems to be the preferred car for scammers on Ebay! Lots of dodgy adverts featuring evoque's floating around.

This evening I was all prepared to catch a train and go buy one (which was a quick sale due to divorce). Then the guy started saying that the car could not be viewed as he was working offshore but I could do a pay on delivery payment through PayPal and he would get the car shipped to me within the 14 days refund period. I said no thanks.
I've had a few dodgy responses to questions from what I suspect are cloned listings.

Last edited by Billsy on 13th Mar 2020 10:28 pm. Edited 1 time in total

^^^^^ Run fast from that one!!!!!!!

Also be aware that lots of them are being stolen... therefore lots of them will be out there for sale to unsuspecting buyers!
Check it out with a fine tooth comb and never buy one on a private sale without doing the deal inside the address shown on the logbook!

Yeah. If you get a keyless entry one either keep the keys in a faraday pouch or disable the keyless entry which is easy to do with the remote fob. I think that applies to most keyless entry cars. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

Farmer Chalk wrote:

Also be aware that lots of them are being stolen... therefore lots of them will be out there for sale to unsuspecting buyers!
Check it out with a fine tooth comb and never buy one on a private sale without doing the deal inside the address shown on the logbook!

I think showing vin numbers would increase the chances of cloning vehicles! Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

Billsy wrote:

Thanks Steve, sounds like it's been a good choice for you.

Seems to be the preferred car for scammers on Ebay! Lots of dodgy adverts featuring evoque's floating around.

This evening I was all prepared to catch a train and go buy one (which was a quick sale due to divorce). Then the guy started saying that the car could not be viewed as he was working offshore but I could do a pay on delivery payment through PayPal and he would get the car shipped to me within the 14 days refund period. I said no thanks.
I've had a few dodgy responses to questions from what I suspect are cloned listings.

That * working off shore * bull was on here a while back I think ? Be careful mate and good luck with whatever you end up with


 If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

jules wrote:

Farmer Chalk wrote:

Also be aware that lots of them are being stolen... therefore lots of them will be out there for sale to unsuspecting buyers!
Check it out with a fine tooth comb and never buy one on a private sale without doing the deal inside the address shown on the logbook!

Do you think that if Ebay required a photo of the VIN on the vehicle to be displayed that would help to prevent some of these scams? Similarly for bicycles, a photo of the frame number might stop thieves selling them on Ebay.

A couple of times Ive requested the frame number of some nearly new bikes that I fancied on Ebay and never got a reply. Wonder why ?

Off topic I know but …
The latest keyless entry fobs have an accelerometer (movement sensor) built in. So they don't broadcast the signal unless they have been moving. Stops thieves from boosting the signal when the keys are on the sideboard. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Nephew went to buy a car advertised on eBay, they were to meet at a supermarket car park, when he got there, no car but three traveller "gentlemen" who were upset that he hadn't brought the £2k in cash for the car that they obviously didn't have.

Threats of - we have your address, be back in 30 minutes or we fire bomb your house.

Now I know dealers can be expensive, and occasionally play hard ball, but I for one am not buying a car from anywhere else. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

There is something to be said for buying from a reputable dealer, your consumer rights are protected, you'll get a warranty and there is comeback if the car turns out not to be as expected. I generally buy from a dealer, paying a bit more for peace of mind then servicing myself.
Happy with my Freelander for now although my wife is itching to change her tiguan for an evoque. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

That * working off shore * bull was on here a while back I think ? Be careful mate and good luck with whatever you end up with


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Cheers. I was suspicious from the start. The car was reasonably priced and wasn't stupidly cheap but when I contacted them to arrange a viewing and possible purchase they gave me the story that it was their husbands car, were going through a divorce and could I please arrange with the partner.
I emailed the guy directly and got a reply that was a very well put together company email address with headers and footers from a petrochemical company with working links and a live linked in profile.
I was now very dubious as the email was a gmail address and not a large petrochemical companies address. I played along with it to see how it would progress. At first the emails were very well structured and worded (probably pre drafted) then they got worse with bad grammar and short responses.
They stopped emailing after I declined to do a pay after delivery through Ebay and said I would only buy the car in person.
Very well put together scam initially but it started to go wrong just by me asking simple questions.

It's a shame as I have bought and sold a fair few cars on Ebay over the years and have done well but it seems swamped with scammers these days.