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IanMetro



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Re: Coronavirus

The Doctor wrote:
Apparently the apocalypse has come. This virus is going to do a Thanos special. We are all doomed.

The media are all over this doomsday scenario but is it as bad as the headlines suggest? I have heard many dismiss it because it does not do as much damage as the old school flu each winter.

What's everyone's thoughts? I can tell you that a confirmed case in Buxton is just a couple of streets away from SWMBO's parents house. Yet we are going about business as usual without hysteria but being mindful of the advice and washing hands regularly.


I have to admit it.

I am taking this seriously, the mortality graph (by age) looks very steep at my end, and I hope not to be one of the half a million deaths suggested by the PM in the worst case scenario.

My hope is that the more fortunate aged part of the population will co-operate in slowing down the spread of the infection, to give a chance of a suitable flu jab to be developed.

If not, then I hope that future generations will learn about the folly of running down our emergency services, as we have allowed, to save a bit of cash. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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IanMetro wrote:
the mortality graph (by age) looks very steep at my end

The kids want their inheritance! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Why do all these new viruses eminate from China, are they experimenting with a form of population control but can't quite control the effects? The graphs suggest that it is more likely to affect the elderly and those with underlying health problems, translated, it is more likely to cause death in the non productive section of the population thus saving considerable amounts of social expenditure and freeing up housing. Whistle my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Largered



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IanMetro wrote:
the mortality graph (by age) looks very steep at my end


Within the past 100 years we have used war to reduce population.

We now need to find another, less aggressive, way.
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The Russians tried novocheck in Salisbury so why would they not try some manufactured bio-attack in Wuhan . . ? Everyone can spread it - Anyone can catch it. Stay home - the life you save can be your own!
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Dartman the one wrote:
Yes easy those that wish to make the money will exaggerate the effect of the crisis ( if it is) with the help of the media having slowly disposed of their assets into cash only need two or three to get it going by dumping selected shares.


Mark Carney? Shocked

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Navigator wrote:
The Russians tried novocheck in Salisbury so why would they not try some manufactured bio-attack in Wuhan . . ?


WHO are pretty sure it emanated from Bats.....unfortunately the Chinese markets are full of all sorts of “exotic” foods, usually kept alive side by side in the markets to keep them fresh, this also keeps any pathogens fresh and easy to transfer and develop.

There are of course conspiracy theories, the Wuhan Institute of Virology has been pointed out by some tin foil hatted types as the source of a leaked chemical/viral weapon.......but it’s not, the genome characteristics are completely natural, but that still won’t stop the conspiracies continuing.


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Now that really is a first world problem Regards

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Boxbrownie wrote:
Navigator wrote:
The Russians tried novocheck in Salisbury so why would they not try some manufactured bio-attack in Wuhan . . ?


WHO are pretty sure it emanated from Bats.....unfortunately the Chinese markets are full of all sorts of “exotic” foods, usually kept alive side by side in the markets to keep them fresh, this also keeps any pathogens fresh and easy to transfer and develop.

There are of course conspiracy theories, the Wuhan Institute of Virology has been pointed out by some tin foil hatted types as the source of a leaked chemical/viral weapon.......but it’s not, the genome characteristics are completely natural, but that still won’t stop the conspiracies continuing.




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Dartman the one wrote:
Yes easy those that wish to make the money will exaggerate the effect of the crisis ( if it is) with the help of the media having slowly disposed of their assets into cash only need two or three to get it going by dumping selected shares.


If you really feel that it’s that easy, you should give it a go and let us know how you get on...
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He's right though. Remember "Bird Flu"? How convenient......
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Tigger



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Dartman the one wrote:
Why do all these new viruses eminate from China...


Because they tend to have a great number if people working and living in very cramped conditions with a great variety of (relatively exotic) animals in uncontrolled and often unsanitary conditions, usually for human consumption, giving plenty of opportunity for diseases to find a way to cross the species barriers. The facts are horrific enough, there’s no need to find conspiracy theories to help to explain it.
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Sperly wrote:
He's right though. Remember "Bird Flu"? How convenient......


Would you care to expand on that?
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