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Simon J



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How to measure auto box temperature?

I’m getting a local workshop to do oil changes for me next week and I’m wondering what the options are for measuring gearbox fluid temperature? The shop is run by a guy who is a Volvo specialist so he knows all about how to check the levels in the Aisin box but I’m not sure what diagnostic equipment he has, apart from the Volvo VADIS/VIDA, but I imagine he has some sort of generic workshop code reader. Should a generic code reader be able to extract ATF temperature? I’ve read here that some of the basic ones simply use coolant temperature as a proxy.

I’ll discuss this with him when I bring the FL2 to him but would like to have some idea of what might be possible. I could bring my laptop with SDD and Mongoose cable along but ....

Post #380268 25th Oct 2019 6:34 pm
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jules



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I used my Torque Pro - it said it was monitoring gearbox temp but it mirrored the coolant temp exactly so I didnt believe it. Also the ATF felt cooler than the 60c the coolant was at when I undid the drain

Maybe the best way is to attach a temp sensor to the ATF pipe going to the ATF oil cooler. Ive got a sensor that I use to control heaters in the greenhouses and will attach that next time I do an ATF change. Jules

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Simon J



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Thanks jules. I’d read that about Torque Pro - hence my query. What type of temperature sensor do you have in mind?

P.S. Would the inexpensive handheld infrared thermometers that you can get on fleaBay for a tenner or less do the trick? If so, what temperature of the gearbox casing should one aim for to have the ATF at or near 60 degrees?

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alex_pescaru



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I never used anything to measure the temperature when changing the autobox oil.
Drive in, with the engine at operating temperature, drain, fill, check oil, drive out.
I even let a little more oil inside the box and never had any problems and I do a partial change each service (about 10K km or about 6K miles)

Post #380302 26th Oct 2019 5:21 pm
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Simon J



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Thanks alex_pescaru. I’ll probably find that the guy who's going to do it for me does the same with Volvos!

Post #380303 26th Oct 2019 5:24 pm
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alex_pescaru



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Probably, because with the engine at operating temperature, as the auto oil is cooled by the engine coolant, the auto oil will have about 80 degrees C.
And when you do a partial change, only about half of the oil will drain.
So, when filling the new oil you will combine 1/1 a 25 deg. oil with a 80 deg. oil, resulting about 50 deg. oil roughly.
During the oil level procedure, with the engine running, those 50 deg. will rise slowly, giving exactly what you need.
And a few millimeters more or less inside the box will make no difference as the oil will bounce inside box's pan as the engine's oil during car trips.

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