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Simon J Member Since: 27 Jul 2019 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 704 |
After two emails to VCA, followed by two phone calls, then a recorded delivery letter to the CEO followed by an email to the CEO I finally got a response from VCA apologising for the delay in replying to me and assuring me that a type approval engineer (whose name they gave me but I won’t publicise it here) would contact me shortly about my query.
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30th Aug 2019 9:04 am |
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andyk159 Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Skegby Posts: 369 |
I'll be very interested to see their response to this as I have a Witter detachable with two towball brackets. A swan neck with a weight of 125kg and a flange one with 120kg.
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30th Aug 2019 9:33 am |
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Simon J Member Since: 27 Jul 2019 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 704 |
Couldn’t agree more, Andy. The Type Approval documents for the towbar bracket state that it was approved for a maximum vertical load S at the coupling point of 150kg using a towball with a type approval number of e4 00-2164. I haven’t been able to track down that type approval documentation but elsewhere in the documentation it says:
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30th Aug 2019 9:42 am |
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Simon J Member Since: 27 Jul 2019 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 704 |
Well, I got a nice reply from the VCA but it didn’t really resolve anything. They obviously discussed the issue with Witter and then more or less said the same to me as Witter has said. I will write to them again to try and get a clear answer. |
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30th Aug 2019 4:45 pm |
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LORDPSK Member Since: 02 Sep 2019 Location: north wales Posts: 3 |
I have never liked removable tow ball, fixed is one less for people to rob |
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2nd Sep 2019 2:00 pm |
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axle Member Since: 11 Sep 2016 Location: South Yorkshire. Posts: 1054 |
The only good thing about them is that you can't hit your shin bone on one if it's removed. (tow ball not shin removed.) Common sense isn't very common.
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2nd Sep 2019 4:22 pm |
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Simon J Member Since: 27 Jul 2019 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 704 |
I do find it intriguing how people feel the need to express their opinions on detachable towballs when the thread is simply addressing a technical issue of S values |
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2nd Sep 2019 4:24 pm |
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axle Member Since: 11 Sep 2016 Location: South Yorkshire. Posts: 1054 |
Just following on from LORDPSK's post.
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2nd Sep 2019 4:26 pm |
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Simon J Member Since: 27 Jul 2019 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 704 |
It doesn’t upset me at all. I just find it strange that people feel the need to let us know their opinions when the topic is a purely technical one. Odd! |
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2nd Sep 2019 4:28 pm |
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axle Member Since: 11 Sep 2016 Location: South Yorkshire. Posts: 1054 |
Look at all the other posts and I bet 90% go of topic, no law against it, don't see the problem but everyone to there own opinions. Common sense isn't very common.
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2nd Sep 2019 4:32 pm |
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Simon J Member Since: 27 Jul 2019 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 704 |
I thought I’d better update this thread, if only to say that VCA are being very evasive. I eventually got a letter from them on 8 October which basically repeated what Witter had said, i.e. that the towball and towbar had been tested as a single unit and therefore all was well. The problem is that, according to the type approval certificate, the towbar was tested with a separate towball with its own type approval certificate with an S value of 150kg and the instructions specify that a towball of equivalent or higher specification be used.
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8th Dec 2019 11:46 am |
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Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4906 |
I still have a hole in my shin from decades ago from a tow bar sticking out too far. I can't repeat what I said from the pain! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device! Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18 |
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9th Dec 2019 6:55 am |
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Simon J Member Since: 27 Jul 2019 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 704 |
I’ll be sure to pass than on to VCA - I’m sure they’ll be as interested as I am |
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9th Dec 2019 6:56 am |
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Richard Willetts Member Since: 07 Feb 2017 Location: Towcester Posts: 99 |
After fitting a fixed Brink bar, they manufacture genuine Land Rover bars with Land Rover is stamped on it.
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26th Dec 2019 8:51 pm |
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