A warning for anyone that doesn't live in this neck of the woods, the London ULEZ charge comes into force on 8 April, 7 days a week!

out of interest what happens if you already live there and have had the car for a few years? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Believe that if you already live in the zone and are registered for the existing congestion charge you're entitled to exemption from the new charge for a couple of years. The ULEZ charge is far more wide reaching in so far it's 24/7. No freebies for weekends so will hit anyone that would have otherwise driven in for theatres, events etc. And its levied daily, so if you drive into the zone for a night shift you'll get caught twice, going in one day, going home the next - existing congestion charge had times attached so it was possible to drive in and leave either side of the window without being hit.
Wtf businesses with delivery vehicles etc will do heaven above knows.
And the main generators of the emissions, buses and London cabs, will still be on the roads

I think at present it only affects the existing congestion charge zone? It will ultimately be extended to the area within the N/S Circular. That WILL upset a few people!
Residents are exempted until October 2021: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low...his-page-0
"Historic vehicles" are also exempt, so if you have a pre-1973 Landie you can pollute as much as you like! (Although you'll still have to pay the congestion charge). Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

I used to work just inside the congestion charge boundaries and on a night shift had to park up about a mile away waiting for the 'window' to lift before heading into work. I then moved to our other HQ in East London and am outside the present zone. If, as proposed, those boundaries are moved outwards then it'd be borderline, but I'd still be on the right side. However, if it then moves even farther east, I'll be on public transport and would struggle to get to work on time. So I suppose it's ultimately achieved its purpose, another filthy old diesel off the road and possibly someone looking for alternate employment

Can I assume this ULEZ applies to buses, lorries, coaches, rivercraft, helicopters, ambulances, fire engines, etc, etc, etc?

Or is it simply aimed at us defenceless private car users?

Past master wrote:

I think at present it only affects the existing congestion charge zone? It will ultimately be extended to the area within the N/S Circular. That WILL upset a few people!
Residents are exempted until October 2021: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low...his-page-0
"Historic vehicles" are also exempt, so if you have a pre-1973 Landie you can pollute as much as you like! (Although you'll still have to pay the congestion charge).

Sidthecat wrote:

I used to work just inside the congestion charge boundaries and on a night shift had to park up about a mile away waiting for the 'window' to lift before heading into work. I then moved to our other HQ in East London and am outside the present zone. If, as proposed, those boundaries are moved outwards then it'd be borderline, but I'd still be on the right side. However, if it then moves even farther east, I'll be on public transport and would struggle to get to work on time. So I suppose it's ultimately achieved its purpose, another filthy old diesel off the road and possibly someone looking for alternate employment

Sid, won't you be in the new ULEZ when/if it comes in, in 2021 so your already stuffed and face having to change your car thanks to Mr Khan  2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
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Milo, I will indeed. I'm working just north of the Blackwall Tunnel so clear until 2021.
Tim, I work for the ambulance service and as far I'm aware we get caught as well; what's the world coming to? Since buses and black cabs are exempt, perhaps people should think about making their own way to hospital? But then again, they don't now, so why not stick with the free service

Although taxis are currently exempt, all new taxis have to be zero emission. They are tightening up on Uber cabs as well. The rules and exemptions are in the url I quoted above. Taxis already have a CO2 test - I know this because drivers have been getting round it for years by running on biodiesel for the test. Unfortunately, that does nothing for the NOx emissions.
I'd be surprised if the government/TFL row back on this. They may not care too much about pollution, "saving the planet" etc, but there has been a huge outcry about pollution levels in schools lowering pupils' intelligence, and there is at least one court case ongoing, and I don't think that's going to go away.
Not many private motorists drive in London. The real sufferers will be the tradesmen in their transit vans.
And there is anecdotal evidence that many of the tipper trucks, in particular, use Adblue cheat devices which are difficult to detect and can be removed for the MoT. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

In the early days of Boris being the mayor, he was facing a big fine from the EU for not hitting the targets that had been set for the air quality in certain parts of Central London. In a desperate bid to avoid the fine a plan was hatched for the roads around the monitoring stations to be sprayed late at night with a sticky solution which would trap airborne particles when they settled on the road surface. the same roads were they swept and washed early the following morning thus cleaning up the trapped particles. This, just, reduced the readings from the monitoring stations enough to avoid the impending fine.

I have a few more factual stories from working in the public transport sector of how he lied and cheated to achieve his election pledges but I suppose its normal for a politician

Now we have Citizen Khan doing the same thing. Closes police stations then moans about increased crime levels  2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

Apologies to the majority of the members here who wouldn't be affected by this but in today's Telegraph it says that since its inception on 25 October the ULEZ scheme has raked in revenue of around £600k a day (yes you read that correctly £600k a day) This equates to 45800 'older non-compliant' vehicles paying the daily £12.50 charge.
It doesn't however take account of fines for non-payment as there was a period of grace during the first month so eventually revenues will increase as there were on average 4300 vehicles daily being caught for non-payment. Fines for those would have generated around £350k daily.
By my reckoning if the revenues continued at that rate daily, for every day of the year, Khan is pulling in £219 million. There's been no mention yet how that money is being used. Khan has however told the Govt that certain of the London tube lines will have to be closed down without further monies being invested. You have to admire the man

This was a good reminder - we have tickets to see Genesis on 25th March 2022 at the O2 and have arranged for parking at O2, so we will have to pay this charge as well.

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Sidthecat wrote:

Apologies to the majority of the members here who wouldn't be affected by this but in today's Telegraph it says that since its inception on 25 October the ULEZ scheme has raked in revenue of around £600k a day (yes you read that correctly £600k a day) This equates to 45800 'older non-compliant' vehicles paying the daily £12.50 charge.
It doesn't however take account of fines for non-payment as there was a period of grace during the first month so eventually revenues will increase as there were on average 4300 vehicles daily being caught for non-payment. Fines for those would have generated around £350k daily.
By my reckoning if the revenues continued at that rate daily, for every day of the year, Khan is pulling in £219 million. There's been no mention yet how that money is being used. Khan has however told the Govt that certain of the London tube lines will have to be closed down without further monies being invested. You have to admire the man

No stopping King Khan who is now proposing that the existing ULEZ zones be expanded still further next year to include all London boroughs. If I’m still living here that’ll mean my 2013 Freelander has to go to be replaced by a post-2006 petrol which under existing legislation and even at 16 years old would be deemed less polluting??