I had the same dilema. I ended up buy a MY13 Lux. The Feelander 2 is the only car I’ve ever owned which I’ve bought a second one. The only reason I got rid of the first was the manual box, my commute to work was a lot of stop start and I just spent my life dipping the clutch going up and down gears. The lux has ticked all the boxes for me, all the bells and whistles and SD4 auto

My stop /start commutes to work has also given me a lot of clutch grief , which I have posted about quite a lot. It has put me off the car, and I am thinking of going Kia next... 7 year warranty!

Its rare a clutch claim will be accepted by any vehicle manufacturer. Some owners will ride the clutch at any point on a journey and some knock a gearbox out of gear and wait for traffic lights to change with the handbrake on. Guess what we are all treated as we are a bunch of clutch riding numpties and the clutch warranty claim fails 7 year warranty or not. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Deano64 wrote:

I am thinking of going Kia next... 7 year warranty!

Absolutely!

https://www.kia.com/uk/innovation/7-year-w...xclusions/

For instance, I’ve just picked my L405 up having gone in to do a 4 wheel alignment check and adjustment. After 15 months and 41,000 mile there was no charge. It’s chargeable on a Kia after just 1,000 miles or 1 month. The wear and tear clauses will be the killer though...

I had Hyundai Tucson before Fl2 and there were no arguments at all about any claims, including a new clutch at 45000 miles... and no. ..I don’t ride the clutch . I seem to be unlucky with clutches. My previous 4 cars were fine ,. I generally keep cars for 6 to 7 years... I am thinking of auto or dct next though. I’ll have to work on a relationshiip with the Kia dealer who is 5 minutes walk from my house !

I’ve never understood when people say it’s a heavy car and a manual is no good. It’s not like you physical have to push the car to its nite I like a manual I’d never touch an auto we’ve got a few in the immediate family RRC, RRS, 90, L405, D4, D5 it’s just not my cup of tea.

I always knock the car out of gear at the traffic lights and at a roundabout I never have it in gear waiting for a save gap etc. Commuting to work in traffic daily when I’m not helping out on the farm. Never had any problems with my clutch or never wished I specced an auto.

Maybe I’m a dying breed but the man reason I went for a new FL2 was that it was available in a manual. I would have liked a D4 manual but they stopped them a while back  MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

I’ve never even considered an auto...until now...most fl2 owners have not had clutch problems.but I have

My comments on a similar post on what to buy,
The FL2 is as reliable as most other cars. The problem is, as with all Land Rovers, that they are very complicated with lots of bits to go wrong as they age, although I have been running a FL2 for over 6 years and have not had any serious problems.

The SD4 auto is the best and proper luxury LR experience, and as above the post 2013 models have updated systems.

Just make sure that you go for the latest model you can afford, with a good service history, from a reliable dealer, and most importantly a good warranty. Don't be affraid to search countrywide as most proper dealers will deliver.
Having said this, you may want a Land Rover warranty which can be honoured any where.


http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic32489.html FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Depends when you had your Tucson, warranty conditions changed in 2008 and are the same as Kia albeit 2years shorter my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

jules wrote:

yes 150 vs 190...

Deano64 wrote:

My stop /start commutes to work has also given me a lot of clutch grief , which I have posted about quite a lot. It has put me off the car, and I am thinking of going Kia next... 7 year warranty!

Imagine if Land Rover/Range Rover put 7yrs warranty on there products

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I thought the TD4 150 was the 2WD manual version, TD4 160 all other 4WD's and the SD4 190 was 4WD in auto only?

Dartman the one wrote:

Depends when you had your Tucson, warranty conditions changed in 2008 and are the same as Kia albeit 2years shorter

I swapped my Tucson for FL2 in 2013, so I had a replacement clutch in about 2011.

Yes, Hyundai and Kia are virtually the same company. I don't know anyone with a KIA yet though so don't know about warranty problems
We'll see.

I can see that clutch could be 'wear and tear' I wonder if an auto box failure could be wear and tear

Stuartc wrote:

The “turbo lag” that some people complain about is not turbo lag but the “neutral functioning” function of the gearbox. This is activated below about 35kph so if you coast into a roundabout and decide to zip into a hole then there is a momentary lapse as the gearbox selects drive. If you want to control this then you simply select “sport” mode which cancels the neutral functioning feature. Same applies at standstill you can either apply EHB or select sport, both neutralise this feature.