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Stevie5tapes Member Since: 10 Jun 2012 Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE Posts: 1370 |
I’ve got a 1 year old Citroen van. Got a message on the dashboard saying change oil. The van has a 2 yearly service interval so I phoned the local dealer who said bring the van in and we can look at it, might be a warranty job or just an oil change.
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15th Jan 2019 9:23 pm |
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jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5064 |
Warranty doesnt come free I'm afraid
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15th Jan 2019 11:31 pm |
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SouthamFL2 Member Since: 08 Jan 2019 Location: Banbury Borders Posts: 432 |
My brother had his DS serviced early back in September last year (due Jan 19), and the only components that were replaced were Air Filter, Pollen Filter, Oil Sump Gasket and Nut, plus Oil and Oil Filter.
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16th Jan 2019 7:22 am |
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Steve D Member Since: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Essexshire Posts: 4109 |
I’d have asked why, on a vehicle with a 2 year service requirement, was it telling you it needed an oil change after 1 year. Somethings wrong and should be fixed under warranty. I keep hearing stories like this on dpf equipped vehicles such as late Evoque, DS's and Transits. Two of my mates have this problem with their Transits . One says “OK” and pays £175 a time, the other one argues “Warranty” and gets it for free. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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16th Jan 2019 7:34 am |
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SouthamFL2 Member Since: 08 Jan 2019 Location: Banbury Borders Posts: 432 |
He'd already had an oil change under warranty after 7000 miles! They weren't prepared to give him another one, as apparently 18000 miles is close enough to 21000 miles by JLR's rules, so he had to pay for a full service early.
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16th Jan 2019 8:06 am |
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Stevie5tapes Member Since: 10 Jun 2012 Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE Posts: 1370 |
The van is our works van, quite a few days it’s only journey is out of the warehouse into the car park then back into the warehouse at the end of the day. Garage said this has caused the oil to degrade. I must admit when the garage phoned me back to say it needed an oil change I never thought of asking how much it would cost, I just thought an oil change would be about £70 or so. Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker. Gone MY2010 Freelander 2 Manual TD4.e S, Alaska White. |
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16th Jan 2019 8:29 am |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
I wonder if anyone has tried sucking say 1 litre of oil out of the dipstick hole and pouring a fresh litre in say every 5k miles? Presumably the oil dilution issue only occurs on cars that do a lot of short journeys? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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16th Jan 2019 9:40 am |
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SouthamFL2 Member Since: 08 Jan 2019 Location: Banbury Borders Posts: 432 |
In theory, you would be right. Unfortunately, his only goes up and down the M40 daily on a 60 mile round trip, and whilst better in terms of dilution than some of his colleagues DS', is still averaging a countdown of 3 miles to every mile driven. So that negates that argument....it seems like the engine is flawed somewhere. When I see him tonight I will suggest that top-up idea to him. |
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16th Jan 2019 10:07 am |
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Steve D Member Since: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Essexshire Posts: 4109 |
Does the engine have the technology to actually measure the oil dilution or is it worked out in the ECU by dividing the days by the miles driven by the engine running time by the engine temperature etc and decide that it must be diluted? Would the dilution warning disappear if the oil was changed? If not, its a programming issue. Also, if it was dilution, I'd just change the oil and not the filter - that'd just be a waste of time and money and I'd leave the filter until the service.
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16th Jan 2019 10:57 am |
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Yorky Bob Member Since: 28 Apr 2015 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4561 |
Yorkshire war cry coming on:
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16th Jan 2019 11:16 am |
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RogB Member Since: 16 Dec 2014 Location: Mansfield Posts: 3881 |
Don't most modern cars have a system that measures the quality of the oil ?
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16th Jan 2019 11:50 am |
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jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5064 |
AFAIK I dont think any car has a small mass spectrometer built into the sump . At best it measures oil temp, oil pressure and oil level. Oil "wear" is calculated using an algorithm. Jules |
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16th Jan 2019 7:33 pm |
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RogB Member Since: 16 Dec 2014 Location: Mansfield Posts: 3881 |
you had best tell that to Vauxhall then as when I asked the dealer about it on both my Insignia (14 plate and 16 plate 2.0 cdti) I was told its not the oil level displayed its the oil quality. when I checked the level was at the top but the display was on 30% |
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16th Jan 2019 7:47 pm |
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AJ918 Member Since: 26 Mar 2018 Location: North West Posts: 260 |
As far as I know Jules is correct it works on the number of times the engine is stop/start and dpf regeneration cycles. |
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16th Jan 2019 8:16 pm |
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