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Kickin 70 Member Since: 23 Jul 2016 Location: Deep in the heart of Essex Posts: 63 |
Still enjoying my Freebie 2 but had some of the icing licked off recently. Just before going on holiday my front wipers stopped working. checked the fuse, got Greenflag in who checked the relay but in fairness he did not have the exact Land Rover replacement - could not find the fault. So visited our new palatial Land Rover dealer. They said I would have to book it in (approx. 7 - 10 days wait !) and the diagnostics check would be £180, then of course there would be the parts and labour for repair on top. Oh Joy!! Left the Freebie in the Garage and went away. Got back and booked it into another local garage where I have it serviced and after 3 days checking, ordering new control stalk, then new motor, then new relay they gave up and said Land Rover would have to use their techie stuff to find fault (Land Rover took back all the parts ordered and the garage only charged labour - £129.43. Have now booked it in with the palace -Friday 13th - and await with trepidation the outcome. Anyone else had problems with their front wipers who could give a clue ?? |
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5th Jul 2018 8:29 pm |
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Deano64 Member Since: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 602 |
Not yet!!!😕😕 |
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5th Jul 2018 9:02 pm |
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Grue Member Since: 29 Apr 2018 Location: New Zealand Posts: 366 |
That sucks... not much more they can replace is there?!
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5th Jul 2018 9:15 pm |
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DigDil Member Since: 25 Aug 2015 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 73 |
It might be worth double checking the fuses and the relays. Looking that circuit layout it looks to me like;
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6th Jul 2018 11:00 am |
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Kickin 70 Member Since: 23 Jul 2016 Location: Deep in the heart of Essex Posts: 63 |
Yes, thanks guys. My mind goes back (as it does so frequently these days!) to a time when you could actually work the wipers from a little lever on the inside of the motor. The "washers" consisted of a Fairy Liquid bottle filled with water which was applied by winding down the window and squirting it onto the relevant area. I know, I know, things have changed and are much better these days, I shouldn't keep looking back, but £180 plus . . . ?? If only they can get the wipers working . . . I wonder if my wife has finished with that dish washing bottle yet? . . . . Just in case, of course! |
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6th Jul 2018 11:02 am |
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Kickin 70 Member Since: 23 Jul 2016 Location: Deep in the heart of Essex Posts: 63 |
DigDil, Just read your suggestion. I am not much of a techie but when the heat of the day subsides I'll see if I can trace those areas and give them a look. I'll get back to you later. Many thanks. |
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6th Jul 2018 11:05 am |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
Many years ago some friends of mine drove back from Switzerland with broken wipers. They got a long length of string and tied it around the wipers and had someone on the back seat pulling as required. Those were the days. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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6th Jul 2018 11:51 am |
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aesmith Member Since: 10 Jul 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 76 |
This something that Land Rover should really be concerned about. Although reliability and maintenance outside the warranty period doesn't affect them directly, it will ultimately start to affect resale prices. And who would buy a new Land Rover if it's valueless after three years? ---------- Tony S |
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8th Jul 2018 9:38 am |
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Kickin 70 Member Since: 23 Jul 2016 Location: Deep in the heart of Essex Posts: 63 |
Digdil, sorry to have been so long in getting back regarding your suggestions, the heat, the Mrs, life in general, you know the usual stuff gets in the way. Anyway, have now checked out those points and (bearing in mind you are dealing with a "Luddite") here's what I found. Firstly, In the manual and also on the fuse markings as shown on the covers I could not find any with the prefix "FE" or "RE". Mine are simply "F" or "R". Putting that aside and relating where I could to those numbers: F18 is an empty socket. F22 is indeed the 30A wiper fuse which has been checked and is OK. The wiper relay R11 is OK. Could not find RE8. The R8 is Engine Management relay. I reiterate I am no techie so it is quite possible I have missed or not located the fuses / relays you mention but from scanning the manual and relating that to the actual fuses it does not appear to be any of those. My sincere thanks for taking the trouble to look up those details. It looks like I'm still heading to Land Rover Palace for their analysis machine to do it's stuff. |
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11th Jul 2018 3:06 pm |
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Kickin 70 Member Since: 23 Jul 2016 Location: Deep in the heart of Essex Posts: 63 |
Just to finish this link. It takes six foolscap pages to relate the story and two letters of complaint to the Chief Executive of Lookers Land Rover, Colchester, and over eight days which they had my car, for them to finally identify a faulty relay which costs £5. For which they initially wanted to charge £508-37p -which I refused to pay and after consultation with "management" it was reduced to £256-00p. I cannot put into words what my opinion of LOOKERS is - there are no words which adequately describe the incompetence, indifference and just downright bad service provided by this garage. However the wipers now work and I'm off to France in a few days to try to forget the whole incident |
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31st Aug 2018 8:20 pm |
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Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4906 |
This happened to me years ago on a Mitsubishi company car, we could only drive about 10 metres because we were laughing so much due to the Situation. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device! Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18 |
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31st Aug 2018 11:16 pm |
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Bobupndown Member Since: 26 Dec 2014 Location: Upside down behind the TV! Posts: 2805 |
Series I and II landrovers had the simple approach of a lucas wiper motor bolted to the screen rail with a switch directly attached to the motor. Simple technology! Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948
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1st Sep 2018 8:31 am |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
Does anyone remember the 1960's Ford Popular where the wipers were run using the vacuum developed in the inlet manifold? The problem was that they worked fine at tickover but when you put your foot down to overtake the wipers slowed to a crawl as the throttle butterfly opened. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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1st Sep 2018 9:19 am |
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Dave47 Member Since: 31 Aug 2014 Location: Margate Kent Posts: 1333 |
Overtake! was it a milk float? yes long hills and heavy rain
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2nd Sep 2018 7:30 am |
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