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Toolking Member Since: 03 Nov 2008 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 60 |
Its a shame the dealers did not meet your needs and that this put you off a great car. My HSE has only ever had one problem and that was on the day I collected it. ( Sun roof would not open after they fitted the towing electrics, quickly fixed with a software update) I too would certainly buy another - not that that is likely to happen for a long time given the depreciation issue.
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18th Jan 2009 6:44 pm |
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Kingy Member Since: 04 Jan 2009 Location: Sunny Glossop Posts: 20 |
Many thanks for that! We collected the X3 today. It wasn't a local dealer so my wife (following me on the way home) had a great journey of roughly 100 miles to see just what the car was like. A combination of small A roads, fast national speed limit, rough roadworks, busy towncentre, motorway and finally the Woodhead Pass from Sheffield to Glossop with the small windy/ bumpy B6105 from Crowden (off A628) to Glossop which is a favourite biking road of mine. Happily she is over the moon with the X3! Whether its down to our Freelander 1 being old technology and no doubt a bit tired or the benefits of the revised suspension BMW introduced I dont know, but the biggest potential disappointment (ride quality if you buy into the old model X3 reviews) has turned out to be one of the cars strong points in my wifes opinion. Another plus point was the computer showing average mpg of 44, which bodes very well for my wifes longer motorway trips down to Heathrow. Anyway, enough said as I appreciate that most on here will not be interested in me bigging up a BMW. I still find it a shame our Freelander 2 plans went so wrong, so as suggested in this thread a letter is off to the dealer principle of the dealer who effectively changed our minds. Whilst it makes no difference to me now, I do think constructive feedback (positive or negative) can help if accepted. Thats down to the dealer though. Thanks again for everyones help. Best wishes to you all and I hope you all have enjoyable and troublefree motoring. |
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21st Jan 2009 6:26 pm |
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chicken george Member Since: 05 Dec 2007 Location: N. Yorks Posts: 13289 |
Do we really want bmw drivers on here lowering the tone
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21st Jan 2009 6:58 pm |
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phil_wkl Member Since: 01 Mar 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW Posts: 369 |
Bit late now, but did you actually test drive an FL2? you'll be surprised how comfortable yet controlled the ride is, nevermind the refinement. Phil |
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21st Jan 2009 10:46 pm |
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Kingy Member Since: 04 Jan 2009 Location: Sunny Glossop Posts: 20 |
Lol I don't think build quality will be an issue. The build and finish (inside and out) look and sound spot on. Plus, the model/year we bought is one of the newer variants so has the upgraded/more refined interior with a few options added which are nice. phil_wkl - No, we didn't drive the FL2. I didn't need to tbh as we knew for a fact that the ride would be excellent. That was a given based on our Freelander 1 ownership experience. We intended to test drive the F2 that we arranged a deal on, as driving it was not a priority with knowing that would be one of the cars strongpoints. With the BMW on the otherhand it was imperative we drove it because of the early reports on poor ride quality (which we found was not the case or we would have walked away from the X3). I honestly won't have a word said against Freelanders and certainly won't be talking them down just because we have moved away from the brand. Excellent vehicles and I can only hope that the X3 is as good for as long as our old F1 proved to be. |
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22nd Jan 2009 6:28 am |
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AndyC Member Since: 30 Nov 2007 Location: Where the snow dosen't melt when the sun is shining! Posts: 4165 |
Haven’t read all the stuff that Kingy has written about the pros and cons of an X3 and I hope he will be happy with his choice but I understand he chose the BMW without testing a FL2 – what a He really does NOT KNOW what he will be missing .
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22nd Jan 2009 7:02 am |
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chicken george Member Since: 05 Dec 2007 Location: N. Yorks Posts: 13289 |
At least it isn't dishwater grey At work At home "I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race |
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22nd Jan 2009 8:39 am |
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AndyC Member Since: 30 Nov 2007 Location: Where the snow dosen't melt when the sun is shining! Posts: 4165 |
Did'nt see what colour Kingy has gone for, but in any case if its black it is double out of date 2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof. Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc. |
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22nd Jan 2009 9:41 am |
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Kingy Member Since: 04 Jan 2009 Location: Sunny Glossop Posts: 20 |
The bottom line to why we didn't bother driving a Freelander 2 is that there are many reasons (bad dealer experiences, too many recurring faults for a two year old car and significant concerns about longterm reliability both mechanical and particularly electrical) which put us off buying the F2. Tbh the ride was irellevant once it was clear there were so many other problems which we simply weren't prepared to accept or risk with longterm, cash financed ownership. By comparison, (despite being rolled out 2 years before the F2) the X3 has had no reliablity issues, dealers have proved very good for us, the ride quality is excellent, servicing costs are less, fuel economy better and residuals forecast as better. Add into all that - my wife loves the drive the X3 gives (after all this size of 4x4 - F2/X3 - are aimed at women owners ) and prefers the look of the X3 and for our circumstances it turned into an easy decision. New BMW X3. Yes, I looked at the net reports (Eg Topspeed) and pics on that. Due 2010/11 and intending to evolve the model rather than change its apprearance dramatically. Looks very nice and maybe something we will consider upgrading to when they have been out a couple of years (around 2014) and taken a good hit on depreciation. .... is that ^^ enough food for the Troll?! |
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22nd Jan 2009 11:49 am |
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Paul Member Since: 10 Feb 2007 Location: Ghent Posts: 417 |
This story once again shows what an incredible stupidity the marketing dep. at Land Rover made by calling this car Freelander (2) again.
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22nd Jan 2009 12:02 pm |
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AndyC Member Since: 30 Nov 2007 Location: Where the snow dosen't melt when the sun is shining! Posts: 4165 |
.... is that ^^ enough food for the Troll?!
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22nd Jan 2009 12:57 pm |
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Kingy Member Since: 04 Jan 2009 Location: Sunny Glossop Posts: 20 |
Can't get to a link through that? Get a Ford ad then a website front page but no road test. As you say, its academic (for us) now anyway as we've made our choice. Tbh I wouldn't be influenced into a purchase by a magazine (virtual or hardcopy) of any sort that relies on advertising revenue. Stopped buying bike mags years ago as they generally became a known joke for that. Anyway this vid is far better for the early model BMW X3 .... http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/dirt-war#...?Phrase=x3. Quality. |
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22nd Jan 2009 1:05 pm |
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chicken george Member Since: 05 Dec 2007 Location: N. Yorks Posts: 13289 |
Anyway if people didn't buy X3's etc, us FL2 owners would have nothing to feel superior about , So buy away make CG happy
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22nd Jan 2009 1:12 pm |
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Paul Member Since: 10 Feb 2007 Location: Ghent Posts: 417 |
@ Kingy: you're right. Apparently the name of the site has been changed so I edited my post. It should work now.
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22nd Jan 2009 1:25 pm |
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