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Heppy



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Wales 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey
Rust

Hello has anyone used hammerite straight to rust paint before and had good results Lee

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2011 SD4 HSE auto
2004 1.3cdti Corsa Energy

Post #350572 31st May 2018 10:16 am
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T4



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Tambora Flame

Any coating directly on to rust is at a disadvantage as, if the covered rust comes off it takes the coating with it. It then leaves an opening where water can nestle between the coating and the metal which can accelerate the rust.

I'm not saying it is better just to leave it as the coating must help prior to being compromised.

If not going for the full eradication of rust I have found Trustan to be a reasonable treatment prior to painting as it does seem to convert and bind the rust to a degree.

If there is rust under the coating it will continue to be rust and will expand if it gets access to water.

Noting all of the above Hammerite smooth is a great quick coating which will stick to, and cover, almost anything. I use it a lot when the look of the final finish isn't paramount.

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Heppy



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Wales 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Thanks. I'm planning on shoot blasting the worst off as I have a handheld shoot blaster then applying the paint. I've just not used hammerite straight to rust before and I was wondering if it was worth getting some or just get some rust treatment then normal paint. Lee

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SYFL2



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2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

There are lots of rust converters out there I've had good results with Kurust and Bilt Hamber.

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T4



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Heppy wrote:
...just get some rust treatment then normal paint.


What/where are you painting? If the underside/chassis etc not really seen, then probably Hammerite smooth after treatment is as good as most conventional paint and easier to apply as you can often get away with one coat if careful. It can be awkward to achieve a good finish though. Once hard (and it takes ages to fully set) it can be quite brittle though so can be prone to chipping as it often forms quite a thick coating.

For a chassis you don't see there are no doubt better coatings which are more flexible and resistant to chipping.

Post #350587 31st May 2018 11:58 am
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Heppy



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Wales 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

It's under the inner wings and a bit on the wheel arches where that pull off rubber strip is Lee

Welshman ​living in England
2011 SD4 HSE auto
2004 1.3cdti Corsa Energy

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The only stuff I have come across that works is Kurust, it converts the oxide into a black compound and then you paint over it. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Post #350597 31st May 2018 1:36 pm
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T4



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Heppy wrote:
It's under the inner wings and a bit on the wheel arches where that pull off rubber strip is


I wouldn't paint any exposed upper bodywork with Hammerite. It really needs to be cleaned back a sprayed properly if it isn't going to look a state.

Anything covered by trim etc. should be good.

And, with apologies, I don't know where I got Trustan from, I meant Kurust. Embarassed

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SYFL2



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Heppy wrote:
It's under the inner wings and a bit on the wheel arches where that pull off rubber strip is
you pull them off ? 2 sets have fallen off mine all on their own Very Happy

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Heppy



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Wales 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

I had the inner wings off when I was checking over for its mot this weekend it's not bad on the front but both back wheel arches will need doing as soon as possible.

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I may need to get a bigger compressor as the one I have is too small for my paint sprayer Lee

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