Police across the country have recently been criticized for the over use of speed awareness course and not prosecuting enough. (nothing to do with easier paperwork option and/or cashing in )

Whilst im against the misuse of speed cameras (wrong locations, wrong type, hidden etc ) im all for prosecuting more repeat speeders, and banning at 12 points regardless of circumstances.

I wonder what it would take for him to curb his speed/change his driving style? I assume at work he comes across as a nice guy, it's only when he gets behind the wheel that the red mist descends. Looking at today's driving standards it's obvious he isn't alone in his actions. I do a lot of motorway mileage and cannot for the life of me understand why most of the vehicles I see speeding through a roadworks section have the words "Highway Maintenance" written on the back of their vehicle. The reduced speed limit is put there to protect these people when they are working yet they happily ignore it when they are driving.

when I used to work just inside the North Circular my whole driving style would change once inside the M25 ring and become a lot more aggressive. Driving around there is the only time ive been threatened with death (3 times!!) for driving normally so I made the choice to drive the same way everyone else seemed to. (i.e. aggressive)

There used to be a distinct line between driving like a lunatic within the M25 and anywhere north of the Watford Gap but these days it doesn't seem to matter where you are, there is always at least 1 serious muppet driving like a lunatic.

dennij wrote:

I wonder what it would take for him to curb his speed/change his driving style? I assume at work he comes across as a nice guy, it's only when he gets behind the wheel that the red mist descends. Looking at today's driving standards it's obvious he isn't alone in his actions. I do a lot of motorway mileage and cannot for the life of me understand why most of the vehicles I see speeding through a roadworks section have the words "Highway Maintenance" written on the back of their vehicle. The reduced speed limit is put there to protect these people when they are working yet they happily ignore it when they are driving.

RogB wrote:

Police across the country have recently been criticized for the over use of speed awareness course and not prosecuting enough...

IanMetro wrote:

Where is this information and guide please. (for Metro Sat Nav)

A link would be great as i'd like this as well please

RealBeale wrote:

dennij wrote:

It would be far easier and safer not to break the speed limit but I guess that's not an option for some.

Work colleague AGAIN has just been done for speeding. I cannot understand how he keeps his licence . He freely admits that when he's in his car (VW Golf) he becomes a man possessed and has to be ahead of everyone else. He was just caught doing 91mph on the motorway, but only got 3 points and £100 fine. He's been on numerous "speed awareness " courses but never learns. One day the consequences will be too much to bare, either he kills himself, or god forbid, someone else (no doubt someone innocent). And worse - he admits to doing it with his young son in the car too !!

Unfortunately the electronic camera has become a relatively cheap way of earning money, be it speeding, parking, etc.

As far as monitoring road behaviour goes, I think there is no substitute for good old fashioned policing. With the correct number of marked and unmarked cars on the roads I am sure we would see better driving.

I also feel that compulsory PROPER driver training of offenders would further decrease accidents.

I was fortunate in that my company, facing ever increasing motor insurance / repair costs, sent us all on a one day 'Defensive Driver Course' run by ex police drivers. It included an on-road driving assessment, and a very interesting practical exercise which had us driving for about 20 mins, trying not to brake or stop, while making reasonable (quick) progress. This was amongst normal traffic on the edge of Bristol.
Also the importance of trying to maintain a space all around your car was drummed into us.
It changed my driving forever. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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We do need more road police as they then smell breath once stopped and check tyres etc.

Well that me banged up then for one of those statements.  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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Just recieved notification of doing 25 mph in a 20p mph area. £100 plus 3 points or £88 and a speed awareness course lasting 21/2 hours BUT no records as far as insurance goes. This brings filibustering to new heights.

Banged too rights but it was on a very steep hill which ,regrettably, a 20 ton tipper had brake failure and killed a women and child just outside Bath some 9 months ago. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

Although I have never had a speeding ticket (yet), I think it is only a matter of time before we all get caught out.
I try to always use cruise control when ever I can to limit accidental overspeed, but it is far too easy to follow other traffic as their speed changes and get caught out.

My main fear at the moment is the rapid introduction of 'Car Park Enforcement' cameras. We have all sorts of time limits, minimum non-return periods, and shop receipts rules, and automatic fines if you get it wrong.
Several people locally have been caught out when returning to pick someone up by the non-return rule.

Again, cheap to run and rack in the profits, and very hard to find a contact to explain the situation. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

unciepaul68 wrote:

I think I produced that guide!

Yorky Bob wrote:

We do need more road police as they then smell breath once stopped and check tyres etc.

Well that me banged up then for one of those statements.

I know they're cracking down but bad breath from not brushing your teeth shouldn't get you in trouble

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No speed awareness courses in Scotland, so don't speed north of the border. Updated- Waiting for a Scotland v England 6 Nations home win. 24th Feb 2018
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