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leftofcentre



Member Since: 04 Feb 2018
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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 Sport Manual Santorini Black
Anybody else had this?

So ive managed to locate the whizzing noise from the turbo spooling up which started a few weeks ago. Turns out the inlet manifold seals- the four O Rings had failed. All of them. Pressurised intake air was being blown past them.
Cant think why they all failed? They were changed maybe 3 months ago as part of job to change the Glowplugs.

Not very reliable these Freelanders are they.... ive had less hassle with a Mondeo!


Post #347027 9th Apr 2018 5:15 pm
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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

What make were the replacement seals though? Genuine parts? Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #347036 9th Apr 2018 7:21 pm
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IanMetro



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

On the whole FL2s are quite reliable, this doesn't look like a LR problem to me.
I have read through some of your previous posts (I was hoping to find your cars history of problems), but I am not sure what you are trying to achieve.
Did you change these o rings, if so, were they man enough for job, and properly fitted.
If someone else fitted them, then I think you need to go and talk to them over this unusual failure. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Post #347037 9th Apr 2018 7:25 pm
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leftofcentre



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 Sport Manual Santorini Black

They were bought from a motorfactors on ebay. So yes ok ebay does have a bad reputation in some respects but if the seller has sold a load of dodgy gaskets then surely others would have experienced this aswel?

And yes i did fit them. And yes i do know what i am doing lol. Hardly rocket science. I am an engineer by trade (not that i have to justify anything)

Unsure what you mean by saying you dont know what i am trying to achieve? Erm, maybe trying to acertain why they all failed in this way? And if there is a pattern of this happening with others i guess....

All four eroded/failed at the bottom so that doesnt seem random to me.

Post #347049 9th Apr 2018 10:57 pm
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dennij



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

The reason they failed is pretty obvious, they were cheap parts not manufactured to the correct standard. Your original ones that were in situ prior to you doing the glow plugs no doubt didn't suffer this. Sometimes buying cheap ends up costing more, I would suggest you buy genuine parts next time.

Post #347054 10th Apr 2018 6:43 am
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Steve D



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leftofcentre wrote:
They were bought from a motorfactors on ebay. So yes ok ebay does have a bad reputation in some respects but if the seller has sold a load of dodgy gaskets then surely others would have experienced this aswel....


Obviously cheap tat. Would I be wrong in guessing that you, like other buyers of these seals, didn't/haven’t left negative feedback for others as a warning? There’s your answer! Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

Post #347055 10th Apr 2018 6:54 am
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Vintagecat



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Aintree Green

Another example of buy cheap buy twice !!

Post #347057 10th Apr 2018 7:04 am
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jules



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leftofcentre wrote:
They were bought from a motorfactors on ebay. So yes ok ebay does have a bad reputation in some respects but if the seller has sold a load of dodgy gaskets then surely others would have experienced this aswel?

And yes i did fit them. And yes i do know what i am doing lol. Hardly rocket science. I am an engineer by trade (not that i have to justify anything)

Unsure what you mean by saying you dont know what i am trying to achieve? Erm, maybe trying to acertain why they all failed in this way? And if there is a pattern of this happening with others i guess....

All four eroded/failed at the bottom so that doesnt seem random to me.


For all four to go in the same way one has to question the manufacture. Im sure you installed them properly. How much cheaper are the Ebay ones compared to the OEM ?
Ive bought loads of car stuff from Ebay over the years (only UK sellers though) and had only few minor issues . Can you let us know the seller you obtained those rings from so we can avoid a similar mistake. Many thanks. Jules

Post #347060 10th Apr 2018 7:53 am
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Yorky Bob



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Firenze Red

Shame that these failed and one hopes its not down to being seated incorrectly as you may have the same problem again. No done them so no idea if they can be fitted in a particular way or if the holding face can distort them if tightened more on one side than the other.

I once followed my instincts and after fitting a timing belt a few weeks later went back to re-tighten as that was the general case with the majority of timing belts , big mistake but at least it was my own car and I was in the trade still so Censored happens.

Censored happens and even to Mondeos I assume as I do not see that many over 7 years old running around and if they are they seem to have become chav cars belching smoke and not just from the exhaust. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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JulesK



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And yes i did fit them. And yes i do know what i am doing lol. Hardly rocket science. I am an engineer by trade (not that i have to justify anything)

I'm an engineer by trade too but if you get some dodgy parts failures will happen.
Can you post where they came from please to help others avoid this happening ?

Also don't think you were being asked to justify yourself just a simple query to try and help but heyho. If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

Post #347078 10th Apr 2018 11:09 am
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IanMetro



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leftofcentre wrote:
They were bought from a motorfactors on ebay. So yes ok ebay does have a bad reputation in some respects but if the seller has sold a load of dodgy gaskets then surely others would have experienced this aswel?

And yes i did fit them. And yes i do know what i am doing lol. Hardly rocket science. I am an engineer by trade (not that i have to justify anything)

Unsure what you mean by saying you dont know what i am trying to achieve? Erm, maybe trying to acertain why they all failed in this way? And if there is a pattern of this happening with others i guess....

All four eroded/failed at the bottom so that doesnt seem random to me.


Leftofcentre

When trying to help, my approach is --
What was your plan or what are you trying to achieve?
What has happened and what clues have you found?
What help or information are you looking for that will help you to solve the problem?

You said Not very reliable these Freelanders are they.... ive had less hassle with a Mondeo!

I thought that one clue was this statement about the unreliabilty that you have experienced, so I looked up your previous posts and could find no real evidence, although of course you may have information that you have not disclosed.
Your profile gives no further clues to how long you have owned the FL2 before 4th Feb 2018 when you joined.

Perhaps some kind of history of your problems, and work on the car, would help us.

Sorry to have upset you.

PS - the more I look at the FL2 (and most other modern cars) systems the more I believe it is Rocket Science. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Post #347129 10th Apr 2018 6:33 pm
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leftofcentre



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 Sport Manual Santorini Black

Ebay item eBay Item No. 232587740954
Sold by Carpartsinmotion
Not particularly cheap at £26.40

Replacements purchased this week from Landrover indie for £12.

As for history: had the car just over a year.

Mods done: total egr delete including associated pipes and cooler. Swirl Flaps and vac delete. Oil Separator fitted.

Items replaced: front wishbones, droplinks, track rod ends (LH twice), Glowplugs, boot latch, rear diff, haldex filter & oil, all four calipers (rear failed - casing split on A30 Devon - NO Brakes!), brake flexi hoses, turbo pipe (short flexi), MAP sensor and now the manifold gaskets twice.

Mileage when bought; 98k miles. Mileage now; 111k miles.

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Greybeard



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Zermatt Silver

Gor blimey Guv, talk about unlucky. I have had my FL2 since Aug 2010 at 36k and have now done 95k. In that time I have replaced the throttle body and apart from routine maintenance (including discs and pads) that's it! Oh I did have some trouble with the radio and had to fit a new one, but that failure was down to a badly fitted aftermarket hands free kit. I think I have done ok!

Post #347438 14th Apr 2018 5:34 pm
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