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rnlisg



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TWIN SOCKET TO SINGLE 13 PIN CONVERSION?

hi all,i have twin electrics and brink towbar which was fitted by landrover and all works with car fine.
as my van has a 13pin socket I am thinking of buying a 13 pin plug and swapping them over.is it as simple as it would seem? Whistle 7 wires plus 6 wires makes 13 wires,simples??
cheers
for any advice
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Yes it's fairly simple, but if you do the conversion at the socket you must remember that you will have two wires with the same colour coding so identify which is the S and N cables, also you will have the two earth wires from each 2 pin sockets. Buy the 13 pin socket that has the gland for two cables rather than the single gland. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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rnlisg



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hi dartman
thanks for the reply,i was going to do them I socket at a time to make it easier rather than have 13 wires out at the same time Shocked gone
P38 v8 auto no problems,great howle from exhausts when giving it welly
Td5 auto head gasket,no5 pot not uncommon but good car.
1st Tdv6s manual epb problem fixed under warranty(stealer said"never heard of this before,i suggested he looked at d3 forum.
2nd Tdv6 se auto epb
3rd Tdv6 xs auto 2008,swmbo,s favourite.

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Bibendum



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Pretty much, yes.

Getting two cables into 1 socket is a challenge so I'd recommend getting some 13 core cable and running that into the car, then cut the other two cables back and joint them in the car.

This might help you....


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rnlisg



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That sounds good,it would defo make it easier,also thanks for the diagrams.
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P38 v8 auto no problems,great howle from exhausts when giving it welly
Td5 auto head gasket,no5 pot not uncommon but good car.
1st Tdv6s manual epb problem fixed under warranty(stealer said"never heard of this before,i suggested he looked at d3 forum.
2nd Tdv6 se auto epb
3rd Tdv6 xs auto 2008,swmbo,s favourite.

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Bibendum



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The easiest way might be to get the Land Rover 13pin electrics kit. Bit pricer but plug and play.

Dan at Duckworths will get you a price.

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I bought a new 13 pin socket and a metre (ish) of cable. Ran the new cable up in to the boot l/h well via the existing grommet and jointed with the original two cables using a couple of chocolate blocks. Simples!

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rnlisg



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I like simples Whistle
Cheers all
Sandy Thumbs Up gone
P38 v8 auto no problems,great howle from exhausts when giving it welly
Td5 auto head gasket,no5 pot not uncommon but good car.
1st Tdv6s manual epb problem fixed under warranty(stealer said"never heard of this before,i suggested he looked at d3 forum.
2nd Tdv6 se auto epb
3rd Tdv6 xs auto 2008,swmbo,s favourite.

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dunkley201



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Here are pics of both blocks, with wiring colours.


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rnlisg



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Brilliant
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P38 v8 auto no problems,great howle from exhausts when giving it welly
Td5 auto head gasket,no5 pot not uncommon but good car.
1st Tdv6s manual epb problem fixed under warranty(stealer said"never heard of this before,i suggested he looked at d3 forum.
2nd Tdv6 se auto epb
3rd Tdv6 xs auto 2008,swmbo,s favourite.

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dunkley201 wrote:
Here are pics of both blocks, with wiring colours.


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Interesting on those shots is that LR don't seem to use the standard wiring colours for the 7S cable. I assume that the wires coming in from the top are the original LR wiring and the ones below the blocks are the new 12 core cable?

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That is correct. Twin socket LR cables above, standard 13 pin single cable below.

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This is a picture of my plug in the car(2008 GS) but the colours are different, any idea which colour is which for a 7 pin plug?
cheers Dave

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AFAIK, that plug is part of the dedicated wiring kit which feeds to a relay box located under the l/h boot side trim. Assuming you already have a dedicated wiring kit, but with 12N & 12S sockets (which I had), you connect to the two 7 core cables presently feeding out of the boot grommet to the tow bar sockets. If you don’thave that, then you are on the wrong track & need a dedicated wiring kit.

CORRECTION! After having read BOTH current threads on this, that plug is for connection to a dedicated wiring kit, which at present you do not have. The only other way is with a “By pass relay” kit which will give you your 7-pin 12N socket and audible indicator buzzer but without interfering with the CAN-BUS system. (You don’t want to do that).
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Thanks Bob
I have the bypass relay and the 7 pin plug, i just need to know which colour goes to which
I hope each one of these 7 colours in the plug goes to a colour in the towbar cable or is that not the case?
I don't want the expense of the dedicated wiring kit when I have the ordinary one free with the towbar
Cheers again

Dave

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