It's mainly price, the overall quality of the D5 is good but it's not at level that's worth the price tag, my one so far is fault free so I've no complaints in that respect but there is an element of disappointment in the overall package.

I'm enjoying my D5 but I think I'm needing a change of scene, so 2019/20 I may move to another brand, Volvo is top of the list, but you never know LR may have something that's worth staying. Either way I've no immediate plans to move as I do have a good relationship with Pentland Cupar. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Suppose it'll also be a case of seeing what the new Defender brings ? FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

Brodit active iPhone holder + Brodit dash clip,
Bluetooth Music Streaming Module.

 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Each to their own at the end of the day. I'd like it more with a touch more aggressive styling and without the offset reg plate.

Right now I am happy driving around in my 2008 VW Golf 1.9TDi Match. No nonsense, comfortable and soild. Pre DPF so its old school PD engine which is more reliable. Less tech means less to go wrong and less faffy gadgets.

That being said, a personal favourite of mine at the moment is the Jaguar XE. Dream on for now...  LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
LOT (Lord of Time) - University of Gallifrey

The new XF Sportbrake, now that would be a possibility if it had AWD, I'm sure it will be an option as the saloons have it.

One thing the new Disco is good at, it is an impressive motorway cruiser, mile after mile in total comfort, drove it to Romford and 7 hours later I felt as fresh as I did at the start. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Friend of a friend story but tales of 14 recalls. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Not on topix, though there is technical bulletins for various things, thankfully mines not affected, it's mainly higher spec models with the useless tech. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Horsey and stables / landed people so probably a full cream version.  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

I was told many years ago never the buy the first of a new model (just as well as I couldn't afford/justify it anyway) but to buy that model as it was reaching then end of it's production life, as by then, all the faults would have been addressed. This can be applied to all makes and models, not just Land Rover.

In defence of the D5, all new models have teething problems, sure they should have been addressed prior to the model launch but in the real world it's not possible to find every issue that may crop up during the testing phase. This is due to the fact that owners use/drive their cars differently and this can raise issues on one car but not another

I was told the same thing dennij re new cars. I bummed in to a guy a few weeks ago who had a disco4 , traded it in for a D5 . Obviously got chatting about the car .. nice to drive , his wife likes it because it's lower and she can get in easier.. its been in the garage every Wednesday for 6 weeks as there's a fuel flow fault and the garage can't find the problem. Last Wednesday I saw the chap driving another loan car . Do it now ! Your a long time dead !!

j77 wrote:

I haven't ruled out
the new Jaguar XF Sportbrake AWD 2.5T is appealing.

I think if I was to ever move, the Volvo would be my first look. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Northcroft wrote:

Yorky Bob wrote:

All looking the same and way out of the pocket of Joe Bloggs. The bubble will burst at some point for sure.

is there any Freelander forums where the owners are just ordinary poor people ? i.e trying to keep an OLDER 5 grand car going, everyone seems to be trading in newer cars than mine for newer models, never ever and never will afford a car over £9000 in 40 years of driving . . . .

Ordinary guy here I did however buy cars for over £10k twice - to my shame! Needless to say I lost a fortune on both of them but I have now learnt my lesson - hopefully lol! My lovely new Freelander 2 (new to me obviously) cost just over £6k and is hopefully a cracker. I will maintain in diligently (change oil and filter at least every £6k etc) as I usually do and hopefully it will last as long as my old Volvo did - over 240k miles and no probs, and my current VW T4 at over 250k miles and sweet as a nut Would I buy one of the new uber bland clone Land Rover Discoverys if I had the money - not a chance!

My thoughts...

As a former Metropolis owner (loved it btw) and then 2 Discovery Sports, I recently became an owner of the aforementioned upturned bathtub. It's a HSE and has pretty much everything you need plus a few others you don't (trying to remember what they are). Yes it's got an odd ar $e - complete with silly number plate, but as a place to be for a few hours a day it'seems pretty darn good.

J77 mentioned previously, some of our number have had some absolute shockers with dealer support to match, whereas I am really counting my blessings with this 'cos when LR get it right it is soooo good.

Would I have any of the BMW / Audi / Volvo / Mercedes-Benz equivalents? No.

Would I have the new Defender? Umm. ...

An XF estate with AWD and 3.0 v6 diesel sounds like a good idea (raised suspension a la Audi All road would be magic too). Now:
17MY Discovery D5 2.0 HSE (Carpathian):

Gone::
(04/17): 16.5MY Discovery Sport HSE (Waitomo)
(08/16): 16MY Discovery Sport HSE Lux Auto (Corris Grey + Black pack)
(11/15): 15MY Freelander 2 Metropolis SD4 (Loire blue)