Hi, I had a remap done in the Netherlands on my FL2. I had it done with my D3 in 2011, worked well. Same shop as then.
This time: no power increase, but increae in consumption that dropped again from +15% to around +5% after a few weeks ,
and 800Kms.

Yesterday I was with the dealer. They checked all error codes. They were obsolete so they erased them. No new codes appeared after a test drive.
Car drives normal. No jutter, normal throttle response.

Now the tuners say they expect some extra torque limiting control may be added in the software to this start/stop economy low emission version, of which they are not aware.
Is there anybody on the forum who knows if this is a real possibility, or does this idea wins the BS-prize of this month...

 [ Freelander 2 TD4e MY10 Sport manual. SVR badge engineered ] SOLD
& D3 MY06 HSE , many ,many extra's...
& 2011 MiTo 1.4T 135hp Centenario Blue Monte Carlo

It is possible, but I noticed a marked improvement in performance in ALL gears after our 2010 Td4 had been mapped

It was only +25-30bhp or so, but the mid range improvement was huge

I know my old Toyota limit torque in 1st and 2nd gears to protect the driveline. No way around it

Arent 1st/2nd geared low in the FL2 as well as these are the off road gears so lowering the gearing allows for lack of centre diff etc ?

for me a remap on the FL2 would need to benefit in 3rd upwards mostly, so mid range acceleration etc.

I, nor the two mechanics [one owns a FL2 himself], noticed ANY improvement in power.

Mechanic says, possibly the tuners closed the remap incorrectly so it wasn't efectuated at all..

Meantime I arranged to go back there. They will run an analasys and then we decide what to do.

I seriously lean towards going back to the original mapping...  [ Freelander 2 TD4e MY10 Sport manual. SVR badge engineered ] SOLD
& D3 MY06 HSE , many ,many extra's...
& 2011 MiTo 1.4T 135hp Centenario Blue Monte Carlo

As a standard car I am very happy with the performance V fuel efficiency, if I want thrills and big fuel bill I would use a sports car.

Why pay any extra to just join the great UK daily car park  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

totally agree Bob, its a tall 4x4 not a sports car..... which may well be my next choice of motor in a couple of years.

however sometimes a remap helps with economy and power delivery (smooth curve) as the factory mapping is so generic its not suited to every single car off the line.

Its like RogB says, the car could run more efficient ánd have more torque and power,
so if its available, why not make use of it at marginal cost.

There is a 'stage 2' option, but that brings it near the margins of the design limits,
a place I wouldn't like to go. But if you need to overtake on a long incline, its
really worth it..  [ Freelander 2 TD4e MY10 Sport manual. SVR badge engineered ] SOLD
& D3 MY06 HSE , many ,many extra's...
& 2011 MiTo 1.4T 135hp Centenario Blue Monte Carlo

If mostly in Holland I can see why mapping may need to be different to say the Alps. 70 mph is the limit and how often can you reach that in UK  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

lots of places Bob... at 0300hrs (added advantage that the camera flashes are more obvious )

I had a remap done on a 2.0 CDti Insignia. boosted from 160bhp to approx. 200bhp, and from 290 lb/ft to 320 il/ft torque.
Economy went up by around 10mpg with no change in driving style from before the remap.

It wasn't so much the added BHP that I was interested in, but the delivery of that power was much smoother and less lumpy than before. The mid range torque was amazing and the economy was incredible. The engine also ran quieter.

Was it just a re-map from a map data base or actual custom development of a map on a dyno?
There is no why that custom map developing on dyno will yield no difference.

Loading map from a data base can be problematic as you dont know were the map was developed and was the car the same as yours (DPF, Auto gear box, temperature etc..)

RogB wrote:

I had a remap done on a 2.0 CDti Insignia. boosted from 160bhp to approx. 200bhp, and from 290 lb/ft to 320 il/ft torque..

35 years ago I was adding the odd turbo to non turbo tractors, no magic computer box then. Place a Dyno on the rear power take off and open up the diesel deliver pump and slacken off the gubibns inside, reset and hey presto much more power (but a fuel cost). That was after converting it to 4WD first of course.

Yes anything is possible I guess but the though of all those beer tokens being used up makes me want to  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Bob it actually paid for itself with the fuel ecomony.... 10mpg extra
only reason I moved it on was because I couldn't get used to a normal car and went back to a FL2

Dresdner - the map on the Insignia was done on a work desk. ECU had to come out. But the map used was a generic one specific for that engine etc. He couldn't provide accurate measurement for torque and power obviously but the map was written off a dyno'd car so estimates were made on that. However it definitely improved power, torque and mpg.

Yorky Bob wrote:

As a standard car I am very happy with the performance V fuel efficiency, if I want thrills and big fuel bill I would use a sports car.

Why pay any extra to just join the great UK daily car park

Because not all of us live in a daily car park

My D3 has been mapped to 228bhp (soon to be 300+ )my Defender to 210bhp, and my K series Freelander running 205bhp

Each one completely different to drive, but I couldn't go back to a standard one

RogB wrote:

Dresdner - the map on the Insignia was done on a work desk. ECU had to come out.

Bench mapping is good fun

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yep that's a bit neater than the guy I went to though

I used one called Junction 28 remaps.... he has good reputation around the area and has just expanded so seems to be doing something right.

He will charge £150 to OBD tune my SD4 but as Im still under LR Warranty I don't really want to mess