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tim_roberts



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Slow lorries

Does anyone else find these 'speed limited to help the environment' lorries immensely frustrating when you're towing a caravan?

I've just returned from a few days away, travelling a couple of hundred miles on motorway and spending most of that stuck at 50mph behind slow lorries. Not only that, I was frequently being overtaken by 'normal' 60mph-limited lorries who have no qualms about aggressively pulling out to overtake regardless of whether there is a space for them or not! I, of course, being too courteous to overtake like that, and also not wanting to give us caravanners a bad name, simply wait ages for a gap. And there's not many gaps on the M25 I can tell you!

Even without a caravan, these slow lorries are a problem, particularly on 2-lane motorways, because of the continuous stream of faster lorries overtaking and holding up everyone else.

I feel like starting a government petition - anyone else?

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Their speed is limited to help the fleet manager meet his Key Performance Indicators on fuel costs, nothing more, nothing less Thumbs Up 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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chicken george



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roads are for lorries, cars can use them if there is space available,

without trucks there is nothing, stop wingeing At work
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ianbevan



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We are all just getting on with our working day. Some drives have time and some are being pushed to get on with the job by managers. As a rule we all want to drive to the limiter but some companies choose to set the limiter below 56mph, why you have to ask them. From my experience a HGV not doing 56 on a motorway is trying to get to that speed. It’s the knackered wagon that cant or the load it has on that will limit it. And I cant see a lot being done about that

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Rimini HSE



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Trucks are limited to a maximum 56mph, (by construction and use regs,) but some trucks are limited between 50/53mph for economy/other reasons.

My old ERF is limited to 56mph, and feels like a sports car overtaking the slower trucks on dual carriage ways/motorways.

Just be thankful on single roads the speed limit has been raised on single carriageways from 40 to 50mph (excluding Scotland....wtf)

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I see many caravaners pulling caravan at 70mph + as and when it goes wrong, it happens very quickly........

Not making accusations Wink

Just be thankful I'm not out in my old tractor Rolling with laughter

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axle



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speed limit for an lgv on a motorway is 60mpg, same as a car and caravan, has been for years, it's the government/eu who wanted 56mph limiters fitted not the driver, the limiters run off the speedo which are always set to read fast so 56 is really about 53. some firms such as Tesco limit there's to 50 which means they really do 48.
so if you want to start a petition make sure you aim it at the right people. Common sense isn't very common.
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Metropolis



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Rimini HSE wrote:
Just be thankful on single roads the speed limit has been raised on single carriageways from 40 to 50mph

This was a huge issue in Lincolnshire; a county with 8,000KM of roads and 45 (yes FOURTY-FIVE) KM of dual carriageway and no motorway. Huge tailbacks would develop (especially on roads like the A17 which link the A1 with the east coast ports via Kings Lynn) and the subsequent accidents causes by drivers taking risks. 50MPH is a less frustrating speed for all concerned and I've certainly seem more patience and less risk taking since the speed limit was raised.

Rimini HSE wrote:
Just be thankful I'm not out in my old tractor Rolling with laughter

Ironically, most drivers are much more tolerant of tractors in my experience, or maybe that's because there are so many of them round here. People seem to accept that they're going to be slow and are there to do a job, whereas an HGV seems to be considered (by some) to be something of a hinderance. It's probably also because a tractor and trailer is easier (and quicker) to get past.

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Tigger



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There's a certain irony when a caravan user complains that hat he's held up and inconvenienced by another group of road users! Rolling Eyes

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Andy131



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Mmmm roads are for lorries 😉If the rest of us can't get to work the lorries will have nothing to shift let's just agree that the roads are equally for all vehicle users.

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Post #307657 26th Sep 2016 10:44 am
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chicken george



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touche, but too many people think trucks just rumble around carrying nothing so are just an avoidable nuisance At work
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Navigator



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At least with a tractor one can usually see (or smell) what is is carrying on the road. Everyone can spread it - Anyone can catch it. Stay home - the life you save can be your own!

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EYorkshire



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A lot of times when behind a tractor it can be difficult to see, as its load from the trailer and wheels overcomes the washers and wipers on the car Whistle

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And don't forget the lumps mud they throw all over the road, Whistle
also why do tractor boys insist on driving on full beam! what's that all about? CG Laughing DAVE.


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Tigger



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Andy131 wrote:
Just ban bikes - who hold up traffic worse than a fleet of caravans


Just when I thought you were talking some sense! Rolling Eyes

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No problem with slow lorries here. On my recent NSW holiday in the outback I was overtaken by a triple trailer road train. The sign on the back warning of Explosives! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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