Farmer forces Land Rover of a country track, Land Rover driven by hunt sabatours.
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But you dont see the whole of what happened before that point do you? the guy f ing and blinding says got it all on camera mate so he must have been ready and expecting what was going to happened next, they could have nearly run the farmer over first.
You need to know what lead up to it immediately before to be able to make a proper judgment.

Mind you these protesters need to be out working in a proper job doing something constructive, youre not going to stop that sport its for the elite and their horses and they think and probably do own the place.

Some of those hunt saboteurs are nasty vicious creatures who don't really give a toss about the foxes - they'll happily string wire across tracks to maim dogs, horses and riders indiscriminately. No sympathy here for the saboteurs - maybe the farmer should try a shotgun next time!

Landiroamer wrote:

... that sport its for the elite and their horses and they think and probably do own the place.

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They don't just kill to eat

Not one for fox hunting really, but I know plenty of people who love it. My Uncle was the master of the local hunt.

but that is just a ridiculous bit of driving,, ok the tractor guy was probably acting as mobile chicane before the prang, but overtaking on the inside ( letting the defenses down and giving the tractor a free side shot) foolish.


Many hunt saboteurs are recruited and unis etc, most just half witted idealists or even doing it for the cash. At work
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agree with you there Pab 100%, a mate of mine keeps chickens, geese, ducks in his very large rural back garden. A mange ridden fox got in and killed dozens of them but didn't even take the dead ones. The foxes often kill indiscriminately, and can be pretty vicious when confronted. The hunt serves a purpose to cull them, and they have toned down the way in which the fox is killed. Although at least in a hunt it has a chance of survival.

The saboteurs are quite often on a different agenda, just there to make trouble and can be evil little when they think they have a chance.

Get both sides of the story on this before judging the guy in the tractor.

and as for the idiot with the camera saying ''its all on camera mate, your going down for that''........... what a throbber !!

EYorkshire wrote:

... there has to be a better way of control.

Been in the middle of it. Both sides are .

I had 22 chickens killed by a fox in one go, which at the time was about half of them. IIRC, it only actually took two of them away.

Hunting is by far the fairest and most natural death because it's given its chance to run, and killed by natural means, not remotely by a man made contraptions. Ask yourself this - if you were going to be murdered, which would you consider to be more just - someone stabbing/strangling you in person, or being shot by long range sniper?

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Landiroamer wrote:

... that sport its for the elite and their horses and they think and probably do own the place.

Sorry, but that's simply not right. There are a couple of high-profile hunts a year (boxing day, new year's day) where the 'elite' come out to play, but the vast majority of hunting is undertaken by famers and farm workers out to protect their livestock. Many of those farm workers have just as much contempt for the 'elite' as you do, and avoid those particular hunts, They also have better things to do than go chasing after foxes, but what's never shown in the hunting debate is the amount of damage a fox can do to livestock and a farmer's livelihood. They don't just kill to eat - if they get amongst chickens, for example, they'll kill them all!

BTW, I don't hunt, but I live in the countryside and know people who do, and they're not elite by any means.

So many people think that only the rich have horses and hunt etc. and it's not remotely true.

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Country matters are best left to farmers and people who understand the country and the balance of nature, IMHO
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Lost for Words wrote:

Ask yourself this - if you were going to be murdered, which would you consider to be more just - someone stabbing/strangling you in person, or being shot by long range sniper?

shot by a long range sniper +1 Fix it until it's broke !

some members of all hunts are indeed the 'unmentionables' arrogant snobs, but the average hut goers are normal folk with normal attitudes.

same can possible said about the anti brigade.


Foxes are pest full stop, its a shame they are so cute on picture postcards otherwise most folks wouldnt care for them.

chickens etc arnt cute after Mr fox gets in the coup and rips their heads off At work
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EYorkshire wrote:

You left out the "or by dogs ripping me apart"

Not relevant though. The point is, you have the option to flee or fight as nature intended; you don't with a gun.

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shot by a long range sniper +1

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