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AW14



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Osram Nightbreakers keep breaking....

I have 2 FL2's [63 & 14 plates] both fitted with the above and I have had 6 failed bulbs in the last couple of months.

I am now binning Osram as I cannot trust them. I have just fitted the Halfords 9005 HB3 90+ bulbs - it will be interesting to see whether they are any better

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If you touch the glass envelope or scratch it then life is dramatically reduced, are you handling them correctly?

Post #285110 22nd Dec 2015 10:29 pm
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AW14



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Yep, fitted many many bulbs over the years.

Fitted news sets to both cars in Nov 14, they started to fail in Sept this year. Replaced all 4 and now these are failing on both vehicles.

Bad batch - nope. bought them sepratley from different suppliers. Just can't risk failures when my wife is driving down wet, dark and narrow lanes in the country.

thinking of complaining to Osram, probably won't do any good. Just wish Philips did the HB3

Post #285111 22nd Dec 2015 10:36 pm
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I bought 4 of these for my Saab in November 2009 because I thought dip beam was a bit dim. As they failed I put the originals back, all 4 originals were back by summer 2010 and they are still in.
They are brighter but when the average life is around 6 months they are just not worth it. Mine, Saab convertible
Hers, MY08 GS auto

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First set I used lasted 12 months and all 4 failed within a very short time of each other (about a month I think). Replaced with same now 9 months in. It will be interesting to see if this set lasts a year.

I have to say that given the palaver involved in changing a bulb on the FL2 I am thinking of trying something else next time if the longevity of current bulbs isn't significantly greater than the last set. I like the extra light they give but not the lack of reliability.

Post #285114 22nd Dec 2015 11:29 pm
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Re: Osram Nightbreakers keep breaking....

AW14 wrote:
I have just fitted the Halfords 9005 HB3 90+ bulbs - it will be interesting to see whether they are any better


Replaced my Halfords ones after 6 months/ 6k miles. I guess it doesn't help that the auto lights only ever seem to turn off when in the vicinity of a supernova, which is going to chew through the bulb's life expectancy pretty rapidly. Fuji White MY13 SD4 Dynamic
gone: Rimini Red MY10 td4_e XS

Post #285129 23rd Dec 2015 8:29 am
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I have to say that given the palaver involved in changing a bulb on the FL2


I would say that 5 minutes changing a lamp on the FL2 must be one of the best there is compared to a lot of modern cars. Incidentally my Osrams are just over 2 years now using the HB3 type.

Post #285133 23rd Dec 2015 8:48 am
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Perhaps pay Halford to fit the next set (not that much in the grand scheme of things) then if they fail within a year you get free replacements Thumbs Up Or is there a problem in my thinking? MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

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Post #285148 23rd Dec 2015 9:53 am
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I have made a number of replies to various "bulb posts" on this matter.
I took nightbreakers back out as they were inferior to original bulbs HB3 in a 2013 model.
I am now using Halfords +120%, they are very very good. Brilliant white light on dip and good range on main. All FL2's (3) Gone
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Post #285154 23rd Dec 2015 10:13 am
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SaabDriver wrote:
I bought 4 of these for my Saab in November 2009 because I thought dip beam was a bit dim. As they failed I put the originals back, all 4 originals were back by summer 2010 and they are still in.
They are brighter but when the average life is around 6 months they are just not worth it.


Yep, already put an original back because of failure.
So running my dipped bulbs with one standard and one nightbreaker.
The difference in light output isn't that great ... certainly not worth the £16 to replace one.
So just going to put the other standard one back in and keep the nighbreaker as a back up.

Still got the nightbreakers in my main beam though, but don't really need them since I've got my HID spots fitted.
Plus I've always got my standard high beam bulbs for the inevitable nightbreaker bulb failure

AW14 wrote:
thinking of complaining to Osram, probably won't do any good.

btw, it does declare on the Nightbreaker pack that life is shorter than standard bulbs. FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

Brodit active iPhone holder + Brodit dash clip,
Bluetooth Music Streaming Module.

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My local repairer says that for the latest cars (the ones with just a single bulb) he would only fit Genuine parts, as the others he's tried fail prematurely. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

Post #285163 23rd Dec 2015 11:38 am
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EYorkshire wrote:
Quote:
I have to say that given the palaver involved in changing a bulb on the FL2


I would say that 5 minutes changing a lamp on the FL2 must be one of the best there is compared to a lot of modern cars. Incidentally my Osrams are just over 2 years now using the HB3 type.


Hmmm not entirely sure that the FL2 system is ok just because there are worse examples out there! I would however be quite happy with 2 years life out of the bulbs but I don't think 12 months is very good. I guess Osram at least tell you they won't last as long as a normal bulb but I got MUCH longer out of standard bulbs in my last car (and on which changing the bulb when it was needed really was less than 5 minutes and didn't require spanners or removing the entire light unit!).

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Nightbreakers are good but have a rep for not lasting to long.
Might just be they are not cooled enough in some headlight designs.

Post #285182 23rd Dec 2015 1:09 pm
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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Tambora Flame

High efficacy bulbs will never last as long by definition, that's the trade-off. What is totally unhelpful is the blue filter on the Night Breakers - it reduces a significant amount of the output, counteracting some of the initial gains and shortening bulb life even further. Rolling Eyes

Daniel Stern explains well how these things go. Thumbs Up Freelander 2 2007 TD4 Manual HSE Tambora Flame
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England 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

I've had good life with Ring +90% on my TriumphTiger800. BUT....they are H4.

http://www.ringautomotive.co.uk/uk/product...enon130-h7

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