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LR NUT



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Stuck in snow

Really wonder is this is all due to driver error? What setting was the terrain response set at? When he backs right out it does appear to be quite deep rut...
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Landiroamer



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They sound as though they might not be Englsh? maybe the foreign FL2s there dont have selectable traction settings, like say its a cheapo version??

Post #284789 19th Dec 2015 10:57 am
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pab



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Everything has its limits, even the FL2. On winter tyres mine will get up my (steep) driveway no problem in 4" of snow, but fails miserably in 12". But in the case of the video a little momentum would have gone a long way.

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RichP



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Their driving is not the best either. You can't just drive into a snow filled ditch and expect to keep going without enough momentum and enough throttle to keep going, it looked like every time it slowed they released the accelerator pedal. You need to keep momentum up in snow. The car does have its limits, those limits are reduced by driver ability, tyres, driving style, etc. Get all those right and it is very capable.

Post #284798 19th Dec 2015 1:06 pm
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If you need momentum and the surface is not firm or is slippery, then you have to turn the dsc off or it will cut power when you need it. You also need lower tyres pressures as well to increase the length of the contact surface area of each tyre. If you go down to around 15psi you will just about double your rubber contact area which means less downward pressure into the surface.

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there's only so much bailing out the computer can do when the driver is hopeless Laughing

Post #284863 19th Dec 2015 11:03 pm
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Deep snow like that the car should be in sand mode. But as said the Fl2 isn't invincible and has its limits. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Post #284886 20th Dec 2015 11:56 am
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Correct, Sand mode in that instance, DSC is limited, throttle map increased for momentum. Road tyres are hopeless for snow as the general idea of a road tyre is to pump out/eject material from the tread which is in contrast to snow conditions. Highly sip'd tyres aid in the retention of snow which gives best adhesion to snow. MY15
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some body put steering wheel on wrong side
...need more weight on other side to increase traction .... Wales
Were the mud is thicker, and the ruts are deeper.
(And we have the water to wash it off, and more on the way..! )
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wizking



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Unfortunately (as richp says) as soon as he hears a wheel spin he eases off the throttle. The Freelander needs a bit of power when a wheel spins to let the traction control do its stuff and brake the spinning wheel sending the power elsewhere. I'm not saying it would have got much further, but he needs to go on a L/R experience day!!

Post #285328 24th Dec 2015 6:02 pm
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mudslinger



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Tottaly agree been to 2 experiance days

Even Mrs M had a good time (she did not even break their car...!! ) Wales
Were the mud is thicker, and the ruts are deeper.
(And we have the water to wash it off, and more on the way..! )
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Post #285375 25th Dec 2015 11:29 am
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