I wouldn't buy a DS until the new engine comes out and then I wouldn't buy one for 6 months. Thereafter I would avoid a used 2015 model. In my experience of 20 years of company cars I always found that new models of various makes have teething troubles. (Remember the FL1 and head gaskets, tyre wear problems, transmission faults etc?)

Landrovers are a bit like fine wines, you get good and bad years, for example don't buy a 2011 Freelander or you get the hesitation problems which seem insoluble. I for one will steer clear of the DS 2015 vintage.

Not interested in the new engines, same overstated fuel economy figures as the current ones. I've had 4 PSA engines and never let me down. If I see owners reaping significant benefits from the new engines then I may change my mind.


I've no problems with taking a first build done it with the Evoque and it was fine. The build quality of the pre production models seemed to be solid but time will tell. I bought one of the first 11MY SD4s it didn't have any problems with hesitation. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Yes the basic Peugeot engine seems pretty solid, the issue is with the control systems and 2011 model year TD4 are the ones with the problem when made significant changes to reduce the emissions and hence road tax, I have one and my dealer said they have three customers with the hesitation problem and LR don't know how to fix them.

Some Evoque owners are having a tough time with the 9 speed auto which swayed my decision to go with the manual. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Didn't realise the DS has active driveline  MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
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Yep, although in some of the literature they call it Efficient Driveline. Either way it's just something else to go wrong, and another step towards the school run people carrier.

My car is coming with efficient driveline, only petrol cars have active driveline as per the evoque. Efficient driveline is just a fancy name for the current 4wd system, so I believe. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Done some research on efficient driveline, it's the same intelligent full time 4wd system that we have at the moment but uses the latest haldex unit which is 4kg lighter.

No UK cars have active driveline at the moment, though one of the cars at the preview event had the 4x4i system, which is only available on active driveline cars, apparently.





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When is the DS site going live as Freel2 was up and running before customers had cars?

j77 wrote:

... only petrol cars have active driveline as per the evoque.

yeh, my original post was done at work from memory, it wasn't until I got home and read the press release.

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I can barely contain my excitement to read that the new Haldex coupling is going to be 4 kgs lighter....
There must surely be hordes of Freely2 drivers out there wishing that their Haldex was lighter........maybe.

The Haldex on my vintage 07 GS has been faultless over 70k mileage, with off road use, towing etc but anecdotally it appears that other owners have not been so fortunate - and particularly with later versions of the Haldex system.
Might it not have been comforting to read somewhere that the latest generation Haldex was going to be more robust?, Stronger? Easier to repair/replace? Would be nice things to hear.
Eh no chaps and chapesses, just lighter.
I don't want a Haldex unit to be more intelligent, calculate my shoe size and adjust wheel slip accordingly, connect to my Social Media feeds or nuffin like that so I do not fit the optimum Landrover customer profile nowadays.
Thinking as such a non person, might one not deduce that this new component , being so much lighter, might be a lighter duty component?

Well some of the pavements outside of schools can be quite challenging for a Chelsea Tractor.

Jan '15 LRM has an article Freelander 2 vs Discovery Sport. It's not the best article I ever read, but the conclusion? There's never been a better time to buy a new Freelander. Price, once again, plays a big part in making the DS look unattractive.