Strange that your dealer should be so dosy. One of the advantages of modern cars is that diagnostic analysis is often quick and easy if there is a problem with the modern electronics - you just plug the car into the laptop and get a reading of what sensor is at fault or what is bust. Any good independent will have the laptop so if necessary I would advise the dealer that you are going to have it tested independently and send them the bill as they are sitting on their harse instead of running the diagnostic for you which they should be obliged to under the warranty. Incidentally the M&S rated Wranglers or "Efficient grip" as they are called now are super quiet - or at least have been on my GS over 64000miles so I would also advise the dealer that they are talking horse poop if blaming the tyres. Hope it is quickly resolved for you anyway - the Freely2 is a great car.
Robin

Hi Alex,

No Problem, I guess that I am going to have to get a thicker skin with owning a freelander!

I had a message from the Dealer yesterday evening stating that they had now found the problem and had ordered the pert required to fix it. part should be in today and I hopefully get the car back today.

As it was a voice mail I didn't get an explanation of what the fault was or what part needed to be replaced but I'll give an update when all is revealed to me.

The next job will be to order new tyres and evaluate the noise difference. I think I will get a professional sound meter so I can record the sound level in decibels prior and post tyre fitting so I can objectively state what the difference is.

Still erring towards Pirellis rather than the Good Year Efficient Grip ant the moment based my personal and very subjective preferences and experience of pirelli motorcycle tyres.

Sounds like the dealer may be getting his act together. Regarding the tyres - Pirellis are clearly quality tyres. The Goodyears standard on my GS were however still perfectly usable at 44,000 miles and I found them great in all conditions including the really hard winter we had a few years back when I could not fault them in deep snow on fields and lanes. I wanted the same when I thought they should be retired but Goodyear changed the name to "Efficient Grip". I personally would rather have lots of grip rather than efficient grip but these ones seem to be much the same and are not even half worn at 20,000 miles.
Robin

Hi Robin,

I've just spoken to the dealership, The reason for the Transmission fault and associated messages was a Haldex Pump Failure. this results in the Haldex Unit being unable to vary the torque applied to the rear wheels. in this event the CPU disables the operation of the Haldex unit although I don't know the default status, I would hazard a guess that it is either FWD only or 50/50 front / Rear AWD as if the pump is not working the Haldex clutch would either be fully engaged or disengaged. Maybe someone would be able to enlighten me!
Again supposition would say the it is most likely to be FWD only (Hence the Reduced Traction!)

The Dealership Service Dept is pretty bad at answering the phone as I always get rerouted to reception although the time taken for thm to call back has improved.

On a plus point they have agreed to deliver my car back to my home adress.

So at the moment I'll give the dealership 7 out of 10 but may revise depending on whether there are any consequential failures that could be predicted based on the fault found.

I hope I can join the vast majority of "Yes, Only ever needs routine servicing" in my straw poll above!

Pump pressure is required to engage the Haldex clutch (and thus rear drive), however, it never fully disengages so I think you'd end up with about 90/10 torque split. Certainly not 50/50 - with no centre diff that would result in transmission wind-up and be pretty obvious!

Hi Pab,

Yes, that makes sense to me, as you say without the ability to have some slippage through the Haldex, it would act like a centre diff in a "locked "position. The default of 90/10 also makes sense as this is how it operates when in normal steady state operation on the open road with all wheel sensors reading an equivalent value.

Okay,

Just to wrap up this particular thread (I hope).

My car was delivered back to me yesterday afternoon at about 4:45 pm. I have taken it for a good rum of about 30 or so miles and all seems well mechanically so no complaints there.

I was disappointed that it hadn't been valeted as seems the norm on here when cars have been in to a Land Rover Dealership so again whilst they have done the work to a satisfactory level the customer experience is a "could do better"

Next job is to have the tow bar fitted for occasional pulling of a horse trailer. I have decided on the genuine Land Rover wiring harness that has already been fitted and coded (to avoid any issues with future warranty claims) but have gone for a Westfalia detachable tow bar as having looked at Witter / Thule etc, I thought that the Westlalia was the best quality.

Thanks for the people who have commented and if you're just browsing click on the poll above as I'll be observing how it goes. So far the Freelander seems to be quite good on reliability and my experience is the exception rather than the rule.

Not an exception at all, the dreaded "reduced traction" has been seen by many owners and is well posted. If there is a difference, it's that they normally change the sensor first and only move onto the pump if still not resolved.

Where is the diff sensor, 2009 LR2 there a electric unit on Haldex clutch looks like a control module. can you get individual parts from dealer or there a independent out let .

Or will a software upgrade do it. we also got a P1889/14 intermittent /oil pressure / pump performance

Where is the diff sensor, 2009 LR2 there a electric unit on Haldex clutch looks like a control module. can you get individual parts from dealer or there a independent out let .

Or will a software upgrade do it. we also got a P1889/14 intermittent /oil pressure / pump performance

hello,
I have a Land Rover Freelander 2 , MY 2010, 190000 km with Haldex 4 Generatin and the car drives like it has a fully locked rear LSD, no more wheel spinning but it scrabbles stones etc when doing 3 point turns, or on full lock driving slowly. I changed (new parts) pump, electronic control module, Oil. Also I disassembled the haldex unit, I clean it and nothing seem to be wrong inside (clutch plates ok)..
I have the message with "transmision Fault, Traction reduced".
On the computer scan I have next error:

P0961-62 RDCM
Pressure Control Solenoid A Control Circuit
Range/Performance-Signal compare failure - 80%

I make a complet scan for errors to the car and evrything is ok.(no ABS errors, steering ). I visit it the local dealer Land Rover and they tel me to change the unit. What do you think, I must change the whole unit?
Any Idea ?

Hi, ours was like that, there's a special way to bleed or add oil to Haldex unit, you think its full but its not, we got thi info off another forum ?. try info refill haldex unit freelander 2. I try and find it, my direct email is Removed by admin

The refill was made by the Land Rover dealer.I presume they now how.

Don't always count on that...

Many fill holes are in the same time level holes. Not the case here.