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Iliacus Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 256 |
An article on the BBC web site implies that this is becoming and increasing commom issue to the point where insurers are refusing to offer cover in London. It looks like JLR are the newest target after BMW and AUDI; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29786320
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27th Oct 2014 2:32 pm |
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shiggsy Member Since: 13 Jan 2013 Location: Kent Posts: 799 |
Range Rovers are getting refused insurance in London now unless they have secure parking facilities.
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27th Oct 2014 2:46 pm |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
It has been said over on Disco4 that it's possible that scanners are picking up and copying the frequencies when pressing the buttons of the Fob, if you keep your Fob in your pocket and use the door handles to lock and unlock, the range is very small around two feet so unless someone's in your pocket. On mine if I approach the door with my left side and the Fob is in my right pocket, the range is to far and I can't open the door, same as when if I get in and put the Fob in the door pocket, it won't start, just get a message "smart key not found". |
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27th Oct 2014 6:35 pm |
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taztastic Member Since: 03 Feb 2011 Location: North West Posts: 8652 |
Aftermarket kits are already coming onto the market in an attempt to thwart the growing problem.
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27th Oct 2014 6:41 pm |
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Tradewind 35 Member Since: 04 Dec 2012 Location: Cornwall Posts: 441 |
I thought the issue was with the keyless entry systems whereby the car and key fob communicate with each other when in range - is that not where the vulnerability lies rather than with the older style fobs where you have to press the button to unlock and then dock the fob to start - surely a
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27th Oct 2014 10:10 pm |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
I thought that these things worked on a "rolling code" basis where there is a list of random codes (basically a long hexadecimal code similar to that used to gain access to a wifi router) know to the individual car and the key fobs so that every time the vehicle locks it is then expecting a different code to open it. Hence recording the last transmitted code doesn't help the thief open it.
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28th Oct 2014 9:17 am |
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Iliacus Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 256 |
I think the system with the problem is one where you don't touch the key/fob, you just need to have it in you pocket. You don't press anything to enter the car and just press the start button when you are in.
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28th Oct 2014 10:52 am |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
" We'll probably need a retinal scanner to get in and a 16 digit PIN to start it soon "
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28th Oct 2014 11:26 am |
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Stevie5tapes Member Since: 10 Jun 2012 Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE Posts: 1370 |
I believe LR main dealers use rectal scanners, at least it felt like it last time I was paying for a new door latch!! Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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28th Oct 2014 12:55 pm |
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CRC@LandRover Verified Account Member Since: 04 Oct 2012 Location: Coventry Posts: 319 |
Hi
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29th Oct 2014 11:51 am |
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Moleshome Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: Right behind you with a chloroform soaked rag Posts: 133 |
Just out of interest, how are these security updates rolled out?
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29th Oct 2014 12:21 pm |
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Badger1970 Member Since: 21 Sep 2012 Location: Southam, Warwickshire Posts: 1372 |
I would imagine, that you would need to take it to a Main Dealer to get the updates. No doubt they will charge for such luxury, after all, its their coffee that you will be drinking whilst they carry out the work. I can't imagine JLR would release such important updates to an independent dealer/repairer...I may be wrong, but I would be surprised if that was the case given the sensitivity. Foraging near Gaydon.... �������������� MY13 HSE Lux SD4, Baltic Blue - current, 30,000> miles without fault MY12 HSE 2.2 SD4, Sumatra Black - gone after 10 months/43,000 fault-free miles |
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29th Oct 2014 12:27 pm |
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Andy131 Member Since: 09 Dec 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 2187 |
Looks like an OBD lock is the quick answer
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29th Oct 2014 2:05 pm |
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CRC@LandRover Verified Account Member Since: 04 Oct 2012 Location: Coventry Posts: 319 |
Hi Moleshome
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29th Oct 2014 2:54 pm |
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