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Tradewind 35



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The DS wade depth is better - but the departure angles are not as good as the Freely2 and critically the clearance under the rear axle is only 239mm in the DS as opposed to 265mm in the Freely2. Unless someone else is paying for the damage done to the underside if taken off road I just don't see how LR can say this will be a better off roader. I have also much enjoyed driving the Freely2 in snow - I think a DS would get stuck a few inches of snow depth earlier than a Freely2. Even if the new car has better traction control I think that does not compensate for measured capabilities which are more like lesser soft road SUVs than a proper Landie. I have not driven a DS so will be happy to be corrected -if someone cares to bring me a DS to play with in my meadow with a boot load of logs or 1/4 ton of sand in the back I will gladly put it to the test.

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One supposes if the roof line is lowered and there is still room to sit an adult in the third row of seats then something needs to be lowered. Seems the diff took the short straw my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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LR don't see this as a replacement for the Fl2, they veiw this as a new Discovery so IMO should be compared to the D4 to see if it stacks up as a true Disco.

In standard ride height alone it has better ground clearance than the D4 though the approach and departure angles are a bit iffy, it's enough for most people's uses. Luggage space is pretty reasonable and has the flexibility of the second row seating moving, which gives as much legroom as a FFRR, all seats folded it gives a load space length similar to the FFRR.

For me, anyway, it cuts it as a Land Rover and a Discovery. It has the best in class off road ability (forget the Fl2) and it's practical for most families, IMO everything a Land Rover Discovery should be. My only gripe is pricing, this car could've and should've been priced a bit less, making it more appealing to families.

This is just my veiw and some of the reasons I'm buying one.

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Were have you read the DS should be associated with a Disco and in not way a FL2 Question

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j77 wrote:
LR don't see this as a replacement for the Fl2, they veiw this as a new Discovery
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Er, nope. It is the FL2 replacement.
D4 is a very different animal. Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

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The Discovery Sport is the first car in the Discovery line, Land Rover are re aligning their brands.
Comparing it to the D4 and claiming it isn't a Freelander replacement isn't correct at all, of course LR are using this car as the Freelander replacement or they wouldn't be using the existing drivetrain in the early cars.
Their strategy is changing and many are wondering what is happening, in time, all will become clear, the new Discovery, the true one in the sense of the word is a couple of years away.

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Pegleg wrote:
j77 wrote:
LR don't see this as a replacement for the Fl2, they veiw this as a new Discovery
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Er, nope. It is the FL2 replacement.
D4 is a very different animal.


I'm well aware what the D4 is, I own one, surly if it's going to be baged a discovery then it has to stack up with what is expected of a discovery. Over on the D4 forum it's being compared with the D4. The RRS and Evoque are always being compared to the FFRR as that's the perceived benchmark for a Range Rover.

The Disco Sport is a whole lot more than simply a replacement for an ageing model, albeit a very good one. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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The bench mark is the FL2 and improving it, in my opinion

The lineup is changed to bring it under the Discovery Family BADGE, like they have had a Range Rover Badged Brand

Two seperate things

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j77, You are most certainly right that it is 'more' than a replacement for the Freelander, I think we're all playing with and interpreting wording differently.

In my opinion, LR do see this as a replacement, or it wouldn't be pure coincidence that one dies as one is born. However, it is also the first of the 'new' Discovery line, which will have models both above it, the Discovery 4 replacement and some below it, forthcoming new models.

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Either way it's interpeted its a good looking, very clever car. I'm sure it will sell well.

Then again my views may change once I drive it in December.

I'm already having problems, style pack 1 used to be £1100, now on the builder its £1600 an over charge if items are ordered individually, my salesman assures me that it's a fault with the builder and I won't be charged any more.

Also Phoenix Orange has been added as a premium metallic at £1200

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I see the disco sport as an affordable D4 as the disco range has risen out of a sensible price range. my dealer has a disco XXV in showroom at 67k Shocked .
Also many seem happy paying 40k+ for an fl2 with a lux badge on , so LR will keep cashing in with those type of customer

discos are nice but are in many ways to big, hard to park etc a smaller car will sell well.

Mrs G has now decided the D4 no longer looks like a bread van so has decided that what we need next ( but not the XXV)


Disco 4 must be up for a new model soon especialty with the new RRS being a half tonne lighter At work
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I see they must be dropping the numbers - a recent D4 I saw was badged "Discovery" only, plus HSE 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

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chicken george wrote:


Disco 4 must be up for a new model soon especialty with the new RRS being a half tonne lighter


Disco 5 is reported to be out in 2016. I expect now the Discovery Sport is all but in the showrooms, the next vehicle you will see in disguise around Gaydon will be Disco 5


dunkley201 wrote:
I see they must be dropping the numbers - a recent D4 I saw was badged "Discovery" only, plus HSE


As from MY14 the Land Rover has gone from the bonnet of the Discovery, all part of the rebranding of the Discovery to a brand and no longer a model in the Land Rover range.

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Spare wheel is no longer in the boot. Am I right?

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Discovery Sport spare wheel is underneath.

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