I choose not to wait the DS and I ordered a HSE Lux (I'm in Italy and there's no Metropolis here even if the only difference seems to be the sunroof as an option).
The story begin on May 12th (the order date) and the dealer has scheduled the car delivery for the end of october.
He sustains the car will be in production on September.
In your opinion, is it possible or everything in Halewood is ready for the DS and there are no more Freelanders on the production line ?

Right,
well the Discovery Sport is launched on 3rd September, its a superb car, being fortunate to be at JLR, I can tell you its a great drive (I currently have a Freelander 13MY HSE) and a much better looking car than the Freelander.

yes its starting out with the DW12 engine (Due to production of the Ingenium AJ200 D Mid and High being targeted at the new X760 (XE) but tbh I have no problem with the DW12.

its going to have some surprises and delights, as the marketing team say (I will post those nearer to the 3rd, don't want to lose my job )

It will have the 9 speed ZF gearbox on the auto versions.

there will be a "special" colour for the launch vehicles.
Any Freelanders now around are the end of the run, as production has stopped and Job#1 for the Discovery Sport is 13th October, so there are three run outs and its a case of the colour you get is all they have.

I am putting down my deposit in September for march 15 delivery

athelstan wrote:

Is CG's scepticism justified

Well let's statistically analyse the data put forward by LR:

1.2m kms = 750,000 miles.
And 11,720 tests recorded to date.
So that equates to 64 tests per mile.

Now it is more rationable to assume that LR just doesn't use 1 vehicle to establish their test results' database. Therefore it is reasonable to determine that they have used more than one DS, and, to project that some vehicles survive for a greater or lesser time/mileage period throughout the reported test. For ease of "rounding" (a generally used principle in presenting test data for the general public rather than a specialist scientific community) conject that the DS test fleet over this test phase has consumed some 100 vehicles, then the data would look like this:

DS Test Fleet = 100
Per Vehicle:
Distance tested - 7,500 miles (12,000kms)
Tests on Vehicle - 117
Test per Mile- 0.64

Now is that sufficient and decisive - or insufficient and inconclusive. You decide

Gadge wrote:

Doesn't look anything like a Discovery does it?

It slopes in from the sides in a very Freelander way.
It doesn't have a raised roof line.
In fact, it seems to be a new Freelander in every design clue.

To me the D3 onwards lost the classic look of a Discovery 1 + 2.
They kind of look like vans from certain angles and I was not inspired to buy one,
keeping my 2002 D2 until quite recently.

The F2 though was, in my view, a massive improvement in so many ways over old Freelander1.
I hope this will be another great step forward for the Freelander but it ain't a Disco to me.

At the moment, I don't like the look of the front break over angle and am not a fan of the squashed roof line either. It just looks like all the other 4 x 4 soft roaders out there by Kia, etc.

In fact, the more I look at it the more I want a F2

Some interesting information there. I personally, am looking forward to the DS and it will be our next car in a couple of years.

Timing for me is perfect as I will wait for the new engine. I agree that I have no issue with the current DW12 engine, but I fear that as the DS is produced for the first 12 months with the old engine, once the new AJ200 engine is released and then hits the used car market, residuals of the entry car with DW12 engine will suffer.

I have heard though, that the DS will have the 163ps and 200ps versions of the current engine as fitted to the Jag XF.

It has been seen many times by many manufacturers when a new car comes out with an older engine, they become less desirable when the new engine comes on line.

But I am all for the way LR are going. I like the future design language they are working to. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Warkman - any info on the Defender replacement?? Please  * GONE. GS TD4 Manual MY2013. Orkney Grey with privacy, cold and clearview packs, armrests (a must!) and a spoiler.
* 2011 4.4 TDV8 Full Fat. Amazing piece of kit.
* GONE.2012 RR Sport HSE SDV6 Orkney Grey. Rocket ship. 33mpg.
* Range Rover Classic '93 200Tdi Factory fit
* 1949 80" in family since 1975

2019 my

Long way off......I hope it's a truck and not a yummy mummy towny motor  * GONE. GS TD4 Manual MY2013. Orkney Grey with privacy, cold and clearview packs, armrests (a must!) and a spoiler.
* 2011 4.4 TDV8 Full Fat. Amazing piece of kit.
* GONE.2012 RR Sport HSE SDV6 Orkney Grey. Rocket ship. 33mpg.
* Range Rover Classic '93 200Tdi Factory fit
* 1949 80" in family since 1975

Badger1970 wrote:

I'm interested Paul.....keep us posted

And this time we wont rely on a certain someone for Milk!

Given the timing it might be too cold to stand around

Warkman wrote:

As for the front, this is subject to European and Californian Passenger impact requirements, the reason why all cars have the similar profile and what killed the boxy style fronts.

How come caddy can get away with this then MY15
 MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

Exclusive..

Discovery Sport

I think I like it!  1st time FL2 owner. 2007 SE i6 in Tambora Flame.

Both look ~ ok. Prefer the roofline of the full size Discovery compared to the Discovery Sport. The Sport looks a bit too common (without a hint of "sportiness"). The full size Discovery still looks a bit like a Land Rover.

parallax33 wrote:

Exclusive..

Discovery Sport

Discovery

Front looks 'ok' rear reminds me of the old Ford Galaxy/ mondeo estate 2011 XS,Sumatra Black, GONE MARCH 2014- RR Evoque Prestige 5 door ,MY 2014,Loire Blue, Silver Roof, Panoramic roof.
MY 2016 Disco Sport HSE Auto Scotia Grey,REJECTED
Mercedes E220D AMG line with air suspension(Gone)
DS 200 SE Dynamic my 21 (Gone)
DS 200 SE Dynamic my 22 (Gone)
Audi Q5 40TDI S line (gone)
Discovery Sport D200 S 2024 MY