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Deano64



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Hello all. I'm sure I'm being paranoid with this car from new, but now I think I keep getting hesitation when changing up gears - mainly from 1st to 2 nd. I don't know now whether it's getting worse when I think about it. I've just taken it to the dealers to check out the rattle 30 secs after shutdown and they say it's the egr valve cleaning? I know people have reported hesitation with older cars - split turbo pipes etc, but this is only 10 months old. My confidence is going in this complex vehicle.
1st service next month. How long to keep car???

Post #228741 9th Jul 2014 8:08 pm
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Its under warranty so relax and tell them about it and get it looked at..... Thumbs Up * GONE. GS TD4 Manual MY2013. Orkney Grey with privacy, cold and clearview packs, armrests (a must!) and a spoiler.
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Post #228772 10th Jul 2014 6:13 am
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Pegleg



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Think your dealer may be a bit idle.
They should replace the EGR valve, but it's not easy to access.
Go back or find another dealer Thumbs Up Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

Post #228803 10th Jul 2014 1:52 pm
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Deano64



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They say it's normal..... And the dealer has a good reputation!

Post #228805 10th Jul 2014 3:06 pm
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iain cooper



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Dean64, if you read through the forum on this subject you'll find that there is a slight hesitation between 1st and 2nd gear on a manual, and is normal.

it seems to bother some people and not others. Personally it doesn't bother me.

as regards the rattle have the dealer or someone show you it on their car to see if this is indeed normal.

I know mine does make a few strange noises on shutdown but none I would term a "rattle"

Iain

Post #228807 10th Jul 2014 4:02 pm
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Deano64



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Thanks for replies. I'll bring it up again at first service time next month. The 'rattle' only seems to happen on hot days so would need to plan some listens weather dependent

Post #228825 10th Jul 2014 7:45 pm
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athelstan



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MY2010 - Manual - 85'000+kms - No Hesitation Between 1st & 2nd Gear Changes. Ever, in 5years of ownership from new. (Stiff gear change between first and second gear always experienced in winter in sub zero temperatures when vehicle started from cold. This is due to the viscosity of the gear box oil - normal)

No "Rattle" on Shutdown. Other "wheezing" sounds experienced on shutdown but this is normal - Alex this sites "Technical Moderator" can better explain the source those standard post ignition off noises.

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dan55



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Hi Deano,

I'm 3 months and 6000 miles into the ownership of my first Freelander. Its a 12 plate and has now done 18,000 miles. I experience this as well and was thinking of posting on here. Its not due a service for a while yet but I'm contemplating taking it back. Sometimes pulling away it almost feels as if its going to stall when you make the change from 1st to 2nd. I've even started pulling away in 2nd sometimes to stop it happening.

Nice to know I'm not the only one though!!! There are a few other niggles that I've noticed too, air con issues (it sometimes decides to do what it wants!) and also a whining sort of noise at low speed.

I'll be interested to know others views on the hesitancy though?

Dan

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iain cooper



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the "hesitation" between 1st and 2nd depends on your style of driving.

if you need to pull away fast and change up fast then that is when it appears.

from memory I think it was related to the clutch/torque setup ?

never bothers me at all as I rarely pull away fast, and under normal circumstances it is very smooth.

Iain

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Deano64



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Hi all. The hesitancy seems as though I just haven't given it enough fuel. I'll try again when I get back in the car. I'm wondering if it's my driving style when I start thinking about it. I've also changed fuel from supermarket for a bit, still concerned about the shutdown noises so will ask again at first service

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dan55



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That's exactly how mine feels, like not enough fuels getting through.

Post #228862 11th Jul 2014 9:07 am
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Deano64



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Not driven car for a couple of days so will check over coming days. Every time I have noticed this lack of power between 1st and 2nd I've been going uphill and doing a relatively quick change

Post #228863 11th Jul 2014 9:24 am
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Hicksy



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Mine never had any hesitation until I put 2 tank fulls of tesco's fuel one after another , also made very flat off the bottom even the wife noticed it and that says some think apart from them two I always filled up with shell , gears between 1-2 became stiff after 1500 miles . 

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Mine is automatic and i can't experience any hesitation as it changes gears very fast. I have experienced some noises on shutdown but not on short distances. Only when the engine is really-really hot. From the first time i knew it was something normal. Freelander 2 TD4 HSE 2.2 (2007) Auto
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Deano64



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Not noticing any this week.... Perhaps it was asda diesel

Post #229134 15th Jul 2014 7:23 pm
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