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taztastic



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The future

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Post #222313 16th Apr 2014 8:14 pm
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....and they still cannot get the diff bearings right. Rolling Eyes 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

Post #222318 16th Apr 2014 8:43 pm
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taztastic



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Sat watching Emmerdale and driving the car by ipad it won't matter Laughing

Sorry Officer, all was well until a Facebook notification popped up and I crashed Rolling with laughter

Post #222319 16th Apr 2014 8:46 pm
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Post #222326 16th Apr 2014 9:27 pm
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GSauto07



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How will the dealers cope with this technology?

Post #222347 17th Apr 2014 7:06 am
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Same way they do now - plug in a diagnostic computer and do what it tells them! There's already a culture of replace-not-repair in main dealers.

But in practice the new technologies are pretty reliable - it's the mechanical stuff that causes the problems. Think of the current cars - the problems aren't with the terrain response or DSC or HDC, they're with the diff bearings, haldex oil pumps, steering racks, clutches, etc. From a reliability perspective moving parts = bad, solid state = good.

The real problem with new technologies such as these (and I speak as an IT professional, not a technophobe!) is that they're of little use in practice, basically just adding cost and complexity to the car for little real gain. But in the showroom they sound good and therefore help sell cars. During the life of the car how many people are going to use (really use, not just play with) things like transparent bonnets, sonar depth gauges, remote control, etc? I'd rather see the car priced lower and without the gimmicks. But for LR as a company I dare say they'll be effective in helping to sell cars at a higher profit margin, and that's what it's really about!

Post #222352 17th Apr 2014 9:45 am
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Things seem to be going the way the computer industry went in the 80s and 90s where the maintenance philosphy changed from repair to replace.

Things went from where you needed to know how something worked and had a manual to guide you to just plugging in a diagnostic tool and following its guidance. If it told you to replace a part then you did, you had no information to judge otherwise.

The parts bacame more complex and more expensive but were not "field repairable". Cheaper to manufacture, more reliable but more expensive to repair. So bad luck if you are the one who gets the failure Crying or Very sad GONE - '07 TD4 GS manual Zermatt Silver
LONG GONE - '55 Norton Dominator 99 SS cafe racer

Post #222364 17th Apr 2014 11:02 am
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