kurrewa, regarding the oil leak, have them seal that tube better.
Already discussed here: http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic10017.html

-20 today. No problems  FL2, TD4 HSE
The flaming Orange!

Thanks Alex_Pescaru,

This really helps. I had the workshop manager of the LR workshop call me today to clarify the exposed thread in this area which looks like a missing bolt - I thought they'd missed putting it back last time. Naturally, he gave me two differing replies - firstly, he had no idea what the braided hose is attached to despite sending him pictures. Then he told me at the later that it is connected to the turbo charger. He also told me that all freelanders have this exposed thread - this I gotta go check out....! Anyway, I gave up listening in the end - as I couldn't get a word in edgeways, and had to take the phone away from my ear.

Re the cold starting and losing power...? Had the car transported to a small independent garage and they found the fuel filter blocked because apparently the regular diesel here in Germany sometimes gets water in it and which starts to freeze in winter. This seemed to solve that problem, as they recommended only using premium diesel in winter as it is guaranteed to minus 35. The regular is supposed to be guaranteed until minus 20 - if it is pure and not contaminated. Lesson learned for me. But I still have the oil leak.

Very glad I found the Freel2 website.

Thanks again.

Steve

kurrewa wrote:

Very glad I found the Freel2 website.

As are we ... always good to hear new members finding useful info on here  2002 Honda VFR800
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2000 Toyota Celica 140 Silver - Gone
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1994 Rover Montego 1.6 Auto - Gone

The fuel filter has a drainage system and periodically you can drain the water, if any.
Also it features a warm-up system, so when the engine is ON, the return fuel from the high pressure system, fuel which is quite hot, warms up the fuel filter.
So the real problem is to be able to start the engine with that diesel fuel (regular or premium), then all will work.

Hi all. Seems like this thread has gone cold.(bad pun)
Just returned from a ski trip to the French alps and, you guessed it,starting probs! Had my Freelander since Nov 2011 so its been through a couple of cold spells without any trouble,having started with the pause, crank method stated in some of the posts. Sooo I believe the EMS to be functioning as it should, or at least it had previous to this trip.
The truck was parked in an underground park so temperatures not too low,now the strange part. Mid week decided to see if it would go, not wanting any surprises ! Can't remember exact events but sure there wasn't a "Glow-plug" pause but lots of cranking accompanied by white smoke. I stopped the cranking and removed key,went through same a couple more times and then she started but with an uneven tickover for a few seconds. Strange thing was I thought the temp read 4deg NOT minus but then I didn't have my glasses on. Decided to give it a run and go play in the snow while I could, no more issues. On the day we left I had the same starting problem and outside it was only minus 1 ambient. Great drive home etc.Monday morning up for work and zero deg with frost so ready for probs having read some of this thread Sunday
Tried the two stage method and she started without a pause or splutter !! I am now baffled and hoping for more freezing conditions to further the experiment. PS Tank still half full of French diesel so that thought of poor fuel fell flat?
Sorry for the long post but thought all this relevant. Back in the fold after 8 yrs. V8 Disco 300 series-Gone.07 Freelander 2 HSE Auto Rimini Red.
Gone.
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Still, could be fuel related...

Thanks for the reply Alex.

Frost again this morning but went for the "key in & press start" allowing the car to do its thing. No pause, no sign of glow-plug dash indicator just a smooth crank and engine running. Baffled more now ! Maybe its the rairified French air
Think I might change my plugs soon anyway, as I'm up around 65 thousand miles on a Sept.07 vehicle which, as far as I'm aware hasn't had a change. Back in the fold after 8 yrs. V8 Disco 300 series-Gone.07 Freelander 2 HSE Auto Rimini Red.
Gone.
2013 HSE Lux Havana ( Brown! )

The Glow Plug indicator on my 2007 HSE never illuminated once when I had it, just the delay, never had a problem starting, the 2010 one did illuminate. General consensus at the time was it depended what software version you had.

Cheers ad210358 ,

I guess it would be boring if they were all the same,or a LR conspiracy to stop us sorting things out !  Back in the fold after 8 yrs. V8 Disco 300 series-Gone.07 Freelander 2 HSE Auto Rimini Red.
Gone.
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Hi All, i'm new to this thread so hope I am not repeating anything.

Anyway, I have started to experience the poor cold start problems on my 07 TD4, I have read through this thread (and a few others) and what puzzles me is that I have never once experienced the 'pause before start' that is supposed to happen in sub zero temperatures and I have never once seen a coil light illuminate on the dash in the 4 years I have owned the car. The first couple of years of ownership I never experienced any problems and the car always started within a couple of cranks whatever the temperature, now it turns a few times and sounds like a bag of spanners for the first 5 - 10 seconds with accompanying white smoke, after that it runs perfectly well all day. I have tried the trick of turning the ignition on for a few seconds before starting and this makes no difference whatsoever. I have also read in various forums that the glow plugs start heating from the time you open the central locking from your key fob but have no idea if this is true. So can anyone answer the following?

Is it programmed into every Freelander 2 TD4 to pause when the start button is pressed to heat the glow plugs before starting at sub zero temperatures? If so I may have a problem with the ECU or the temperature sensor.

What would you expect the lifespan of the glow plugs to be? Mine has done 70k in typical UK conditions.

Can anyone suggest a way of testing the car to determine what the cause might be?

All suggestions gratefully received!

Hi All, I know this topic has been covered before but I can't find any definitive answers so I was hoping for some help.

Anyway, I have started to experience poor cold start problems on my 07 TD4, I have read through a few threads and what puzzles me is that I have never once experienced the 'pause before start' that is supposed to happen in sub zero temperatures and I have never once seen a coil light illuminate on the dash in the 4 years I have owned the car. The first couple of years of ownership I never experienced any problems and the car always started within a couple of cranks whatever the temperature, now it turns a few times and sounds like a bag of spanners for the first 5 - 10 seconds with accompanying white smoke, after that it runs perfectly well all day. I have tried the trick of turning the ignition on for a few seconds before starting and this makes no difference whatsoever. I have also read in various forums that the glow plugs start heating from the time you open the central locking from your key fob but have no idea if this is true. So can anyone answer the following?

Is it programmed into every Freelander 2 TD4 to pause when the start button is pressed to heat the glow plugs before starting at sub zero temperatures? If so I may have a problem with the ECU or the temperature sensor.

What would you expect the lifespan of the glow plugs to be? Mine has done 70k in typical UK conditions.

Can anyone suggest a way of testing the car to determine what the cause might be?

All suggestions gratefully received!

Exactly the same problem I was having with my 07 plate until last weekend when we changed the glow plugs,since then everything has been loads better.

Dealer told me exactly that as well when I brought mine - the car knows its about to be started when you activate the central locking to gain access so the pre-heat happens when your getting in, putting seatbelt on etc. so you wont notice the light come on and extinguish.

All that's left to do then is start it up and there wouldn't be a delay???? Mine's definitely not doing that lately with the colder temps - a good 2-3 second delay but no light on the dash. MY2010 TD4 HSE Santorini Black, 19" Alloys, Almond Leather, Lux Pack, Rear Spoiler, Adaptive Xenons

spike bailey - I never experienced a starting delay with my 07. Dealer said that early models did not have the delay - believe that if you will. It does read very much as though your glow plugs are not working. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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