Both airbags deployed so I assume the RR was moving quite fast so better to be safe than sorry.
I guess the bags only work if needed cos if you were off road and had a jolt you wouldn't want an inflation

Years ago I used to live close to where the accident happened. Its a bit of an awkward cross roads with a petrol station on it, been a few accidents there over the years, I'm wondering now if the little car has pulled out in front of the RRS. From memory its a 50 zone there. No doubt the full story will be tomorrows Huddersfield Examiner. Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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Total bloody waste! Elf n safety, minor injuries.....whatever next?! Send the salvage to Godalming...spray it Loire Blue and bobs your uncle!  Foraging near Gaydon....
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Where's there's blame there's a claim culture at work here ... Allegedly of course

If an occupant of the car complains of pain to neck or back, or a paramedic says that there may be that kind of injury, then to remove them from the car on a longboard, the roof comes off. If you aggravate such an injury removing them from the vehicle you run the risk of being sued.
It's litigation from vehicle occupants that have lead to the carving up of cars being standard practice. Don't blame the Ambo's or the Firey's, it's not their fault.

It's not the fact that the roof was taken off, more the injuries suffered by those in the Sport that required the roof to be taken off compared to those in the 107. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Here's the update from the paper. Basically lady RRS was complaining of neck and back pain. Fire fighters couldn't get seat to move back as electrics wasn't working so had to take rook off. Theres more in the newspaper article.


http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorksh...ew-6317245 Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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Most new upper market cars now have an explosive charge system that's fitted within the main power lead from the battery to cut all power so to help avoid a risk of fire.
If the air bags are activated the signal is also sent to the power lead to cut all power.

With situations like this It makes you wonder why car manufacturers don't come up with a system where such as electric seats have a power point that mr fireman could plug into with there own power pack to operate the seats as required

Simple 1 type of power point on all cars and build the car in such a way that mr fireman can disconnect the seats power supply from the rest of the car so not to send power round the whole car risking a fire.

Guess its too much like sensible thinking and manufacturers would much rather get another sale as mr fireman has just had to destroy your pride and joy

or fit a ring pull type handle that puts the seat motor out of drive allowing easy sliding back of the whole seat At work
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I think it goes back to Volvo's SIPS system. Saving Idiots Protects Sales.
Drive slower, pay more attention = less collisions.
Having spent 30+ yrs pulling people from cars and lorries the only "real accidents" I've seen are trees and buildings falling on vehicles during storms.
Am I overly cynical? I guess I am.

Contrary to what many people think not everyone who complains of a sore neck gets the roof chopped off – and it’s nothing to do with health and safety either.
If there is evidence to suggest that a casualty has sustained a spinal injury a strict assessment protocol is followed. The Canadian Spinal Assessment http://www.racgp.org.au/afp/2012/april/cervical-spine/ is used to determine if the casualty can be extricated by their own means or if full spinal immobilisation is required. If full immobilisation is required there are various ways of extricating and one of them is the removal of the roof.
At the end of the day what would you rather have – a written off car or a lifetime in a wheelchair with someone wiping your backside and feeding you…

Northsea medic well said.
I am a paramedic with 25 years experience and have treated people who after a "minor " impact have complained of slight neck ache that has later been proven to be a C-Spine fracture, I and most of my colleagues are trained to clear potential C-Spine injuries where possible and do so on a regular basis but if in doubt we treat for the worst case scenario as may of been the case here.

As for the size of the vehicle what has that got to do with anything ? if the forces involved in the incident may have hyper-extended someones C-Spine then there is the potential for a fracture and if upon examination I determine the need for spinal immobilization I will immobilize that patients spine regardless of what vehicle he / she is in and act accordingly as the police have found out on one occasion, our only concern is for the patients safety and well being, you would be amazed at some of the RTC`s I have attended where on arrival at a scene of devastation I expected to find a seriously injured / dead occupants of a vehicle only to find them walking around with minor injuries and on the flip side arriving at a minor "shunt" to find patients with time critical injuries.

One thing that constantly amazes me is the advice given by the general public who always know my job better than I, the amount of times I have been told to give oxygen to the hyperventilating patient or being told the patient doing the dying fly needs to be de-fibrillated is beyond belief I even manage to upset a plumber who witnessed a car V pedestrian RTC recently when I failed to heed his advice on how to treat my patient by asking him "if I called you to my house to sort out a problem with my boiler and then told you how to fix it what would you say" on his reply my asking why he was qualified to advise myself for some reason caused offense.

The spinal cord has the consistency of toothpaste and is very fragile it only takes a minor displacement of one of the cervical vertebrae to cause permanent injury or death and the saying in the medical trade of C 3 4 5 keep you alive is first and foremost in mind when assessing some ones neck as if we get it wrong there is no second chance for that patient and we may consign them to a wheelchair for the rest of their life assuming they survive the mistake so before you judge us ask yourself "if I was that patient what would I want"

Thanks for that Scubadiver - spoken like a true professional! As you can probably guess from my user name I'm a medic on the rigs - I come from a critical care background and am BASICS trained so I like to think I give an informed opinion. My other hat out here is health & Safety (boo hiss) but I consider myself to be one that applies a large amount of common sense in the world of H&S. Fortunately haven’t had to deal with a real chopper incident out here but on a recent training course I did order the removal of a casualty from the back of a chopper by the removal of his seat - it was preferable to taking the roof of the chopper!
Must admit to thinking whilst may Freelander was a year or so old and covered by gap insurance that being a good samaritan I should offer shelter to a casualty in the back seat in the hope that Trumpton would come and reduce it to a write-off - but that would have been a little unethical!!

I have dealt with a lot of spinal cases over the years and wouldn’t wish a lifetime of paraplegia on anyone... Removing a roof or spreading the cabin is never going to be a decision made on a whim but would I request it for the welfare of one of my patients - hell yeah!

I once came across an RTC with an unconscious but breathing driver and his uninjured wife - all was well until a very 'helpful' and forthright lady stopped to help. Whilst dealing with a pedestrian who'd also been involved I became aware of the 'helpful' lady compromising the poor chaps’ airway and c spine as she tried to shove not one but three barley sugars in his mouth because she had heard the wife say that he is a diabetic...

In view of the above, I think we need a new forum section for members with skills and knowledge with which to supply informed opinions etc to the rest of the forum.

We could call the section: A very particular set of skills  LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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