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shilen Member Since: 29 Feb 2008 Location: In the Middle Posts: 1774 |
Had a an hour spare this morning and decided to see what other FL2 tranportation was out there (seeing as though I am due to change in March) . Came across the Q5 which I must admit to having a soft spot for but whilst i love the rear end styling the rest looks too 'plump'. I then surprisingly stumbed upon the X3 which I hadnt even considered before, I know the mk1 was dreadful but this new one, especially in Msport packaging looks very nice - but also very expensive when you rack the options up to spec it to FL2 HSE levels. Then finally to my shame I came across the new Ford Kuga, the soon to be released Titanium X Sport package looks very appealing and the spec you get is quite impressively - electric tailgate, electric panoramic sunroof that actually opens more than half way like the FL2!, an electric blind to cover the sunroof, full voice sync including the ability to read your texts to you from your phone, parking assist then the usual stuff like privacy glass, xenons, auto lights, auto wipers, sat nav, A CENTRE ARMREST WITH STORAGE!!! Yes I know it wont be as good off road but my FL2 tends to stay on tarmac 99% of the time anyway. Am i mad to consider a Kuga or just thinking with my wallet? (Its cheaper and more economical than the FL2) On the plus side leasing a Kuga for 2 years will be considerably cheaper than leasing a FL2 whilst waiting for the FL3 to come out. Any thoughts (other than me needing to stand in a middle of a field awaiting the gunshots) |
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3rd Sep 2013 3:17 pm |
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rjc1944 Member Since: 18 Dec 2011 Location: Perranporth, Cornwall Posts: 783 |
Our experience of Ford couldn't be more different. For ten years before she retired in 2011, my wife Tricia ran a Fiesta 1.25 Auto on her daily 55-mile commute from Runcorn to Sale. Predominantly motorway mileage and with very few short runs, this was as easy a life as a car could have when in regular use. Starting at 20-odd thousand miles and three years old, she added over a hundred thousand over the ten years. We had it regularly serviced, changed tyres as needed, renewed brake pads and linings an changed the battery once. Other than that it cost us nowt except for the fuel and oil. 100% reliable.
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3rd Sep 2013 3:40 pm |
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Badger1970 Member Since: 21 Sep 2012 Location: Southam, Warwickshire Posts: 1372 |
Only ever had 1 Ford in my life back in the mid-80's....Series 1 Escort RS Turbo. Converted to a Cavalier SRi130 in '88, and stayed loyal to the brand throughout the years until last year when I switched to JLR.
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3rd Sep 2013 6:43 pm |
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oldgeezer Member Since: 09 Apr 2011 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 1302 |
For kuga is a great car and did consider one myself but the LR product just oozed more refinement at the end of the day and for me the towing ability of the FR 2 finally did it..
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3rd Sep 2013 7:32 pm |
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StephenMG Member Since: 20 Jan 2013 Location: South Wales Posts: 84 |
"Dreadful" you say? How do you arrive at that conclusion? I had one for 4 years and it was superb. Better than the FL2 I have now and that I traded it in for. |
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3rd Sep 2013 8:50 pm |
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The Doctor Member Since: 09 Jul 2010 Location: Gallifrey Posts: 4615 |
Regarding the first BMW X3:
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3rd Sep 2013 9:55 pm |
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piattj Member Since: 18 Jan 2012 Location: where the crowds aint... Posts: 1235 |
I had an (54-reg) X3 for three years. I came to realise what a bone-shaker it was. Might as well have been on wooden wheels. ...
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4th Sep 2013 7:01 am |
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Steve D Member Since: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Essexshire Posts: 4109 |
We've had many secondhand Fords over the years without any major problems and two from brand new because we could (still can) get them on a disount ticket through the Ma-in-Law. A 53 plate 1.4 Fiesta Zetec, had it 3 years only problem was it had to have the ECU updated once when it went into limp-home mode. After that we had a 2006 2.0 TDCI Focus Titanium for 3 years with no problems whatsoever. I think we lost 」2.5k on the Fiesta and 」5.5K on the Focus when we sold them after 3 years ownership which I dont think is too bad but it would have been more had we bought them at retail prices. I serviced them myself from new too. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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4th Sep 2013 11:43 am |
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Pedro Member Since: 01 Apr 2010 Location: Very near Pig Hill Posts: 449 |
I think that comparing the original X3 with the current one is probably like comparing the FL1 with the FL2 (Although saying that my wife's FL1 has had fewer problems than my FL2 !!). I looked seriously at the X3 but plumped for an FL2 due to the 6 - 9 month X3 waiting list at the time. My recollection of comparison reviews at the time is that the FL2 is more rugged and better off road than the X3 but that the X3 was far more economical, cheaper to maintain / tax and with a more premium interior. Nowhere did I read that the X3 was ' crap off road ' just that the FL2 was better. Some later magazine reviews also compared the FL2 and or X3 with the Kuga so it will be well worth trying to find those online or in back issues. FL2 HSE Auto Galway Green
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4th Sep 2013 12:46 pm |
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DrRpb Member Since: 14 Oct 2012 Location: Petersfield Posts: 572 |
I had a new mark 1 Kuga for 2 years. Great car and did 40 plus mpg. New Kuga is nowhere near as chunky looking I think. Freelander is in a different class above the Kuga. * GONE. GS TD4 Manual MY2013. Orkney Grey with privacy, cold and clearview packs, armrests (a must!) and a spoiler.
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7th Sep 2013 1:29 pm |
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Hicksy Member Since: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Nr Oxford Posts: 355 |
The Kuga is a great car nearly bought one myself but at the time , two years ago the finace was cheaper on the land rover , a good friend of mine has one and loves it , but was disappointed with it in the snow , he thought his focus handled it better |
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7th Sep 2013 7:34 pm |
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Hotglove Member Since: 19 Aug 2013 Location: Rochester Posts: 28 |
X3 has no place for spare wheel. I am about to say goodbye to a BMW 3 Series convertible (330d) with run flat tyres. Wonderful car fitted with the worst tyres ever made, drive carefully and you might make them last for 9000 miles. BMW offered, if I bought an X3, to replace tyres free if I needed new set within 5 years. But main dealer service has been poor and BMW Insurance also poor service. Will be sorry to part company with the splendid car, but glad to see the back of a pretty sorry support service. |
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9th Sep 2013 7:05 pm |
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kimosabe Member Since: 24 Aug 2012 Location: Rigil Five (Moonbase beta) Posts: 122 |
Let me put it to you like this; FL2 confirmation bias aside.
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13th Sep 2013 6:37 pm |
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shilen Member Since: 29 Feb 2008 Location: In the Middle Posts: 1774 |
I think customer service depends upon the garage you are dealing with rather than the brand. The dealer I used for problems with my first Fl2 was 4 mile from where I live and they were absolute rubbish, their attitude stunk so bad i almost handed the keys back to LR. I then went 15 miles to another dealer who were fantastic who have had my business for the past 5 years. Ocassionally there is a blip but generally i have been pleased
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14th Sep 2013 1:25 pm |
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