chicken george wrote:

ChrisC wrote:

chicken george wrote:

So diesels have been greatly improved by things like dual mass flywheels.

Not strictly true, dual mass flywheels are a cheaper way of getting a heavier flywheel in a smaller space, so a more reliable, but more expensive flywheel would be an option that could perform the same task.

Chris.

my evidence http://www.buyautoparts.co.uk/2007/12/07/d...hat-is-it/

jerry1838 wrote:

Car departed on back of lorry to dealer - suspected clutch problems (after 17000 miles!). Have to say LR Assist has been very good so far. Will update when verdict is known!

Tandemman wrote:

My slipping problem began at 24000 miles and only occurs at 1950 to 2050 rpm when in 4th 5th or 6th gear. The engine surges to 2250 rpm then imediately returns to normal. There is no burning smell it happens very intermittently, is not related to whether the engine/gearbox are ot or cold and happens as often solo as towing. I get the problem about once a week and it will do it 5 to 10 times in a row anf ten nothing for a further week.If itdes it when the cruise control is on the the cruise control automatically cancells itself, exactly as it would if the clutch pedal was pressed. To replicate the problem ,dip the clutch when on cruise control and yu will see what we mean. I believe it will become a common problem when more cars have done more miles. I just hope my clutch doesn't go completely when towing over the Alps this Summer

maybe its a message ' stop towing a c van '

Seriously though, dragging one of those heavy things around cant be good for the clutch At work
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It also happend to e rarely at the beginning but just got worse in a couple of hundrend Km. FREELANDER 2 TD4 SE (XS UK) IZMIR BLUE SIDE STEPS COLD PACK BI-XENON TINTED WINDOWS - AND PROUD OF HER

chicken george wrote:

You would be upset without one. they stop a lot of diesel rattle and the shakey gear stick thing that used to affect diesels.
On my mk2 diesel golf the cassettes used to rattle out of the player while stopped at traffic lights, So diesels have been greatly improved by things like dual mass flywheels.

On my recent southern trip I got stuck in terrible stop/start traffic for a few hours yet the only clutch problem I found was my left leg, it got tired from all the pedal pressing

Comming back. The problemm I had at my Lancia was the cluch not making good connection with the pressure plate (don't know if the terms in english are correct). A setting of the cluch cable sorted out the problemm at the beginning but after a while it got worse. The car had abt 100k miles.
I know tis will fuel up CG but the car did some towing with the prevoius owner. I do not know if towing generated this probleme (it certently did not improve it) and it surely depended on the drivers's style but since I never towed.
I don't want to start again the caravan topic but if you have a slippage in high gears while towing/heavy load there should be a cutch probleme even if at your mileage it should be rare. Maybe it just is the clutch cable tension.
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chicken george wrote:

maybe its a message ' stop towing a c van '

Seriously though, dragging one of those heavy things around cant be good for the clutch

Yet another sarcastic remark.
Seriously though Land Rover sales people told us that these vehicles were capable of towing 2000Kg.
As we don't tow continuously I would expect more than 17000 miles out of a clutch. As we were lead to believe all Land Rovers were made to tow.
I got 50,000 miles out of my last clutch on a 2wd car and that included towing.
If these dual mass flywheels are all that good why did Ford have to recall them on the Ford Mondeo?
I have driven several other diesels without dual mass flywheels and haven't noticed any undue vibration.

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True you would expect a land-rover of all vehicles to be built to tow. But If I was looking for a secondhand LR I would avoid the ones with tow bars there is undeniably extra strain on the car when towing whether thats vans, trailers, fish'n'chip trailers, jetskis or whatever At work
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I came across this website. It looks as if the dual mass flywheels can be replaced with single plate aftermarket ones.

http://www.aftermarketnews.com/default.asp...;item=5202

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waaxh03 wrote:

I came across this website. It looks as if the dual mass flywheels can be replaced with single plate aftermarket ones.

http://www.aftermarketnews.com/default.asp...;item=5202

waaxh03

Matei wrote:

waaxh03 wrote:

I came across this website. It looks as if the dual mass flywheels can be replaced with single plate aftermarket ones.

http://www.aftermarketnews.com/default.asp...;item=5202

waaxh03

I don't think you can do this while on warranty.
If LR would agree than you will certainly have to bear the costs and if LR does not agree and you do it you will most certain loose your warranty.
Somehow I don't think that LR would approve as this would mean that the FL2 has a serious flaw.