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Uncleron



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Looking to Fit Lift Kit for Extra Ground Clearance Off Road

The Lift Kit / Spacers I am looking to fit is based on the same research I did before deciding on the 245/70 X 17 tyre size in this link ;

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic10278.html

Similarly to the tyres, the guys were again really helpful when I PM'd them about lift options and I'm now organising a set of spacers to be manufactured and looking forward to seeing what the overall difference is & how the FL2 looks 'in the flesh' with both the larger tyres & lift kit fitted.

20mm seems about the safe max on the front so I am going to stick with that & I am going to go for either 20 or 25mm in the rear.

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I know nothing about lift kits, is it worth the hassle and money to raise the car by an inch or does it greatly improve ground clearance for off roading? Like wise, does it affect your insurance too? Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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Uncleron



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Time will tell if it's worth it.......

I am personally just trying to keep to a minimum the amount of obstacles I need to miss out on the off road Green Road Runs I do in my Freelander 2.

I have already fitted the Mantec Sump & Tank guards and am also fitting these spacers in combination with larger tyres so I suppose I am hoping for maybe 60/70% of the result the Freelander 1 owners seem to get by fitting the more common lift kits to their vehicles as in NickGround's posting in the Off Roading & Green Laning Forum ;

I have an FL1 which is off roaded monthly. It was let down by the lack of ground clearance initially, as was the FL2 that came on the FFRR green lane day on the Salisbury Plain last year. However, I have mud-terrain tyres and importantly a 40mm lift and a couple of proper guards fitted to it and when I go out with Disco's and Classics it is now the point vehicle sent to try any new lane. It will go nearly anywhere a Defender will and sometimes more due to the traction control. The FL2 that joined us last year got stuck once due to beaching on some deep ruts and that was after being told not to attempt it!

Cost wise I am calling in a favour from a friend in a machine shop so they are not going to cost me much. They will take me a bit of time some weekend to fit but if I get an end result with my Freelander 2's off road capability approaching NickGrounds with his Freelander 1 then it'll be well worth it for me! Besides I am actually quite enjoying the challenge of seeing what I can do to improve my Freelander 2's off road capability.

Not sure yet about the affect on Insurance - If NickGround reads this maybe you could tell us r.e. the affect on your Freelander 1?

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WizzardPrang



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I'm wondering - the Terrain Response programs are designed around the standard suspension, so would lifting upset that and possibly reduce its efficiency? 2020 Defender D200 110S Pangea Green
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I can't see that the TR would know the difference; settings relate to the amount of wheel slip detected/allowed so the ground clearance should not make a difference. remember that the systems have to work when fully laden with baggage passengers and feul (min ground clearance) and lightweight driver noly + nearly empty tank only (max. ground clearance)
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someone here said the limit to suspension raising is in the mountings of the cross struts At work
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Uncleron



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WizzardPrang wrote:
I'm wondering - the Terrain Response programs are designed around the standard suspension, so would lifting upset that and possibly reduce its efficiency?


I agree with Chris B here in that my understanding is that most of the sensors supplying info to the Terrain Response system are located within the drivetrain / hubs and primarily comparing the speed each wheel is turning at in relation to one another so I do not believe and am certainly hoping that the mods I am doing will not have any affect on the TR system.

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I agree, what Chris B said makes sense. Will be interested to hear how it works out. Thumbs Up 2020 Defender D200 110S Pangea Green
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Uncleron



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chicken george wrote:
someone here said the limit to suspension raising is in the mountings of the cross struts


Agree with this too - The various previous threads and feedback from the people that have already done this implies that you can fairly safely go to a max of using 20mm spacers in the front suspension without any issue of the cross struts hitting the mountings or any noticeable affect on CV joints, camber, alignment, tyre wear etc and in order to keep the car pretty level I am not going to use any more than 25mm spacers in the rear.

20mm to me feels about the 'sweet spot' on Lifting for Freelander 2's - Any less than a 20mm increase and it does not really feel worth the trouble and any more than 20mm and it seems more trouble than it's worth.......

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