Forum-Gallery-Shop-Sponsors

« Advertise on Freel2.com

Home > Off Topic > Locking wheel nut removal without key.
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 2 12>
Print this entire topic · 
Stevie5tapes



Member Since: 10 Jun 2012
Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE
Posts: 1370

England 2013 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Auto Sumatra Black
Locking wheel nut removal without key.

When I was getting my new tyres today, there was a Focus on the ramps. The wheels needed removing during the service. The mechanic couldnt find the wheel nut key. Receptionist phoned the customer who said it had been lost. The garage then quoted 2hrs work to remove the wheel nuts at a cost of 98 quid!! Shocked

Dont know if its a big job or not but seemed expensive to me! On the same car the fella working on it was an aprentice, he asked the receptionist "how do I write down on the report that there are little bits of metal sticking out of the wheel?" Receptionist replied "put its down to the ply" of which the receptionist rolled her eyes at me and said loudly "P L Y!" I found that rather funny but it has been a dull morning! lol Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
Gone MY2010 Freelander 2 Manual TD4.e S, Alaska White.


Last edited by Stevie5tapes on 2nd Mar 2013 11:41 am. Edited 1 time in total

Post #173764 2nd Mar 2013 10:36 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Mona Geeza



Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Devon
Posts: 1293

England 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e XS Manual Stornoway Grey

I thought the main dealers had a set of master locking wheel nut keys so it would only take a moment to remove it?
I dont think the dealer ever uses mine when the car goes into service its kept in the dash in a plastic bag buried under all the books etc, never seems to be touched, and they do have the wheels off.

Post #173767 2nd Mar 2013 10:49 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
SYFL2



Member Since: 16 Jun 2012
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 2594

2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

So theres a plonker in a Focus driving round with no way of changing a wheel ? Good grief.

Post #173769 2nd Mar 2013 10:59 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Stevie5tapes



Member Since: 10 Jun 2012
Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE
Posts: 1370

England 2013 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Auto Sumatra Black

This wasnt at a dealers, just a local garage that services and MOT's any car. Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
Gone MY2010 Freelander 2 Manual TD4.e S, Alaska White.

Post #173770 2nd Mar 2013 11:01 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Steve D



Member Since: 19 Jan 2013
Location: Essexshire
Posts: 4109

United Kingdom 

They're just having him over - no way does it take 2 hours to remove locking wheel nuts without the locking nut. But then again, someone who drives around knowing they haven't even got the means to remove a wheel in the event of a puncture deserves to be taught an expensive lesson. I bet he'll be more careful with the next locking nut! Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

Post #173771 2nd Mar 2013 11:09 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
bish789



Member Since: 30 Apr 2012
Location: St. Andrews
Posts: 512

United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Santorini Black

So ther'es nuts on the wheels? Shocked

Post #173777 2nd Mar 2013 12:17 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
WizzardPrang



Member Since: 19 Oct 2012
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 93

England 2012 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Santorini Black

The biggest nut is the one holding the steering wheel. 2020 Defender D200 110S Pangea Green
Gone: 2018 L550, TD4 SE Tech Auto, Carpathian Grey
Gone: Defender 90 200Tdi, Grey Raptor
Gone: 2012 FL2, TD4 GS Manual, Santorini Black

Post #174659 8th Mar 2013 9:26 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Apache



Member Since: 03 Jul 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 126

2008 Freelander 2 TD4 S Manual Indus Silver

Best advice is to dump locking wheel nuts altogether. Had one crack on my Disco and the top spun so no way of getting wheel off in an emergency. Took about 30 seconds to remove - strike the top with a chisel to split. Hammer on a reverse threaded tool and unscrew.

Post #174665 8th Mar 2013 9:55 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Big Dave



Member Since: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 1055

United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

That's all well and good Apache but a garage is going to do it without potentially damaging the rim!

Of there isn't a collar that spins on the but then you can tap a socket on. Another way to do it if there is a collar is to drill it out.

With expensive alloys though you'd be an idiot not to have locking wheel nuts on...and your insurance would laugh at you if they got nicked and they found out there was no locking wheel nut! Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

Yorkshire - God's County

Post #174716 9th Mar 2013 2:35 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Stevie5tapes



Member Since: 10 Jun 2012
Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE
Posts: 1370

England 2013 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Auto Sumatra Black

The fella's Focus was 10 years old. The alloys looked scruffy anyway, I though 98 quid was expensive but then again he knew he had lost the key. I wonder if before hand if he had gone to a Ford dealer if they could have used the master set and sell him him a new set for alot cheaper? The fella was quoted 15 quid for a new set (I heard all this when the receptionist was talking to him on the phone)

Or is it cheaper to give some deviant 20 quid as they seem to able to get a full set of alloys off in double quick time without making any noise!! Whistle Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
Gone MY2010 Freelander 2 Manual TD4.e S, Alaska White.

Post #174739 9th Mar 2013 4:05 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Apache



Member Since: 03 Jul 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 126

2008 Freelander 2 TD4 S Manual Indus Silver

Big Dave wrote:
That's all well and good Apache but a garage is going to do it without potentially damaging the rim!

Of there isn't a collar that spins on the but then you can tap a socket on. Another way to do it if there is a collar is to drill it out.

With expensive alloys though you'd be an idiot not to have locking wheel nuts on...and your insurance would laugh at you if they got nicked and they found out there was no locking wheel nut!


It was a garage that removed mine. Split the cap and tapped on a special reverse threaded tool. Toot them about 30 seconds.

Go over to the Disco3 sister forum. Almost everyone runs without locking wheel nuts due to these problems. I removed them from both cars that day. [lots of stolen wheels suspended below the car]

Post #174754 9th Mar 2013 5:08 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
iain cooper



Member Since: 27 Aug 2007
Location: north of Glasgow
Posts: 1989

Scotland 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e HSE Manual Lago Grey

Mona Geeza wrote:
I thought the main dealers had a set of master locking wheel nut keys so it would only take a moment to remove it?
I dont think the dealer ever uses mine when the car goes into service its kept in the dash in a plastic bag buried under all the books etc, never seems to be touched, and they do have the wheels off.


how do you know they have the wheels off Mona Geeza ?

Iain

Post #174766 9th Mar 2013 6:26 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
JST



Member Since: 01 Nov 2011
Location: Lizant
Posts: 1098

France 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Narvik Black

I worked for a while at a Ford dealer. Yes, in the parts dept. we had a master set and often sold new locking nut tools to those who had lost them.....a lot less than £98!!! John
07 HSE Narvick Black
Land Rover Series One
Triumph Rocket 111 (sadly gone!)

Post #174880 10th Mar 2013 2:39 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Bill Turner



Member Since: 08 Jul 2008
Location: Birkenhead
Posts: 977

United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Santorini Black

Simple Answer

http://www.mcgard.com/


Bill T Life Honorary Member of Wallasey Motor Club.
Licenced MSA Radio Operator for 35+ years.
Rallying is the only sport.

Post #177254 25th Mar 2013 2:49 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
npinks



Member Since: 28 Jun 2007
Location: Ls25
Posts: 20090

United Kingdom 

i have had a stuck on wheel nut (not the locking one) and that was less than £98 to remove

there are lots of ways to remove locking wheel nut, all which should not be placed on a public forum to show people how to do it Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Post #177256 25th Mar 2013 3:12 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 2 12>
All times are GMT

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
Freel2.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site