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nonickname



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Denmark 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 S Manual Stornoway Grey
sand mode

hi - any technical reasons (apart from fuel economy) not to drive the FL2 permanently in the sand mode ? Very Happy

Post #161222 16th Nov 2012 3:53 pm
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npinks



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The fact it waters down other systems like DSC and doesn't cut traction as quick so you could technically spin and end in a ditch, I see no reason at all Confused

Post #161223 16th Nov 2012 4:02 pm
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Post #161224 16th Nov 2012 4:07 pm
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Big Dave



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Transmission wind up was what I was going to pick up on.

At best you'll reduce the life of your tyres.

At worst, new Haldex. Sand is intended to be used on sand - slippery/loose. So the transmission locks up (mimicking a locking diff). This isn't a problem in loose underfoot conditions, but on grippy tarmac it is. Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

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Post #161236 16th Nov 2012 5:29 pm
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chicken george



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alternatively just turn off the dsc At work
At home

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Post #161237 16th Nov 2012 5:32 pm
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npm910



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Sand mode however tends to cure the lousy flat spot when pulling away from lights etc. Makes the car safe again in my opinion as it can be bloody dangerous in special programs off mode.

Not sure if its emissions related.....will turning off DSC sort out the flat spot?

Post #164939 19th Dec 2012 9:19 pm
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rchrdleigh



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What flat spot - not noticed one on my TD4 manual.

DSC will not help; even when you turn it off, it doesn't go off fully.

As others have indicated prolonged use of Sand mode in non-sand conditions could lead to problems with the Haldex and electronic centre couplings (e diffs).

Post #164943 19th Dec 2012 9:56 pm
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Atrix



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Latvia 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 S Manual Lago Grey

Time and again I also turn the sand-mode on, if I need a quick start at traffic lights. Afterwards I switch it off. Sand-mode is useful for getting through deep snow alike Wink

Post #164955 20th Dec 2012 8:54 am
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EYorkshire



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My previous 'manual' TD4e never had a flat spot that I noticed, to cure it take a trip to a LR repair centre as its not a global thing.

Then again, as the manual gearbox is designed to handle a maximum of 380Nm torque and the output of a FL2 diesel can be 400 - 420Nm, perhaps it is 'dampened' a little to protect the gearbox/clutch from disintegrating Exclamation

Post #164956 20th Dec 2012 9:08 am
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pcheaven



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npm910 wrote:
Sand mode however tends to cure the lousy flat spot when pulling away from lights etc. Makes the car safe again in my opinion as it can be bloody dangerous in special programs off mode.

Not sure if its emissions related.....will turning off DSC sort out the flat spot?


mine had a flat spot, LR diagnosed pump in haldex or summit Smile

all good now. 

Post #164957 20th Dec 2012 9:51 am
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Mona Geeza



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Big Dave wrote:
Transmission wind up was what I was going to pick up on.


When I told my tyre dealer the old ones had worn out in 10000 miles, he said it was wind up, I said no its true.
Laughing

Post #164962 20th Dec 2012 11:58 am
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LRswe



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why not drive on snow mud, the fuel economy difference is awesome : )

I agree on sand mode in deep snow though, sometimes you just need to floor it without eating your brake pads : )

Post #165066 21st Dec 2012 7:27 pm
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