muddywheels wrote:

Silly me - of course it is good news for the uk - they have no intention of building them abroad and closing the uk plants even though they can build them cheaper abroad

I bet Ford and Cadburys workers thought they would be ok too

Quite simple really. Kraft took over Cadbury with a promise of no closures. After deal went through they closed the Keynsham factory, are looking to demolish the site and cover in housing. Local people lose jobs, sports fields, social club and in return get houses and more traffic.
I don't buy cadbury "chocolate" any more. No loss really, not really chocolate at all, the cocoa solid content is too low.

^^^^^ As he said

Eh - less of the old

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Don't recall Kraft spending millions in a new plant before closing existing plants though.

Kraft found conveniently that there was a Cadbury group plant in Europe that could produce the same products as Keynsham so it was a nobrainer for them. Promises mean nothing compared to money.

OK, just to clarify a few points regarding Cadbury. They are a large customer of mine, and although the press write a pretty dismal report about the take over.

Less than 250 were made redundant in the end, most of them were voluntary and early retirement, and the others were offered jobs at other plants but decided to take redundancy.

Also did the news report that Kraft had bought some production back from Poland to Bournville to bring the factory back up to full capacity? No they didn't.

The news programmes don't tell the good sides, only the bad.

When Vauxhall closed at Luton there was up roar. But only a small percentage were laid off, most were transferred to GM's IBC van plant in Luton and Ellsmere Port Astra plant with VERY generous relocation packages.

Those that did go got multi year salaries plus a free car as a pay off. But they don't report that bit. My cousin was made redundant from there as he didn't want to move, and he told me it was the best thing that happened to him as it gave him enough to pay off his mortgage etc.

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oh dear oh dear its all about money china buy alot of our cars so it makes sense financially from them and us to have a plant over there, however i believe cars for each country should be made in their own country, I don't want some Chinese land rover. we all know whats going to happen, china will have a fantastic new turbo for example which costs half the price, they'll make it sound wonderful but the consumer ends up taking the fall and paying out for cheap parts. Land Rover have to realise what they stand for ? Is it vast amounts of profit (probably) or is it delivering a vehicle made from solid parts which are supposed to last a life time not just a number of years. When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car

on a lighter note does anyone know when chalkeys putting his facelift photos up  When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car

If it happens, you wont get a Chinese Landrover in the UK, or indeed anywhere in the Western World. They will be built there for their own market.
Landrover ain't stupid, they know themselves that a Landrover bulit in China wont sell anywhere else.
Just as German owned Bentley wouldn't sell unless it was built in Crewe.
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Mav71 wrote:

....My cousin was made redundant from there as he didn't want to move, and he told me it was the best thing that happened to him as it gave him enough to pay off his mortgage etc.

It's not all bad when these things happen.

Good to hear not everyone suffers

My cousin is in engineering - he has worked his way up from overalls on the shop floor to shirt and tie in the offices over the last 25 years - he has been made redundant so many times when factories were taken over/closed or moved abroad. He was in the oil industry but it went down the pan, then moved to aviation just before 911 and everyone cancelled orders

Companies he has worked for have lost contracts to chinese/indian factories then won them back after fails due to sub standard components

He has had to move around the country to find jobs each time but has now been headhunted for a job in France and passionate as he is about British engineering he realises it might be necessary for job security and to support his family but his ambition is to work for Rolls Royce  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

The number of transporters I see on the A34 heading for Southampton docks is unbelievable. They must be exporting a fair few.

And we know what happened to London Taxis when Manganese Bronze started sourcing their steering parts in China

Having dealt with JLR directly at the factories on a regular basis, you would be surprised to know that to a degree, there is some relief that this is happening.

This will allow the factories to use the extra capacity to satisfy demand for the rest of the world. As things stand, JLR are pricing themselves out of the market as their products are way too expensive to import in to China.

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Mav71 wrote:

This is good news for the company. Not bad news.

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