Hi all .Just had a Witter demountable tow bar fitted. And this weekend we are off to look for a caravan.The one we are looking to get is a Bailey pagaent Burgandy. We don't know much about the weight and length of this van. All i need to know is will my Freelander 2 HSE TD4 2.2 Tow this model ok? I've been told by a couple of people that most twin axle vans are too heavy for my freelander???
Also if any members are selling their Bailey pagaent Burgandy we may well be interested. We are looking for one aged aprox up to 5 years and newer.
Ta very muchly...Dave and Di my freelander is an 07 Stornoway grey HSE with full cream leather

i would think it would be all ok

according to towcar.info website (just make sure i selected the right caravan though)

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Landrover Freelander II - 2.2 TD4 (118 kW/158 bhp)
Date of manufacture: january 2007 - up to now. Towball limit: 150 kg (Advise: 80 kg)
Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The weight ratio (loaded caravan / kerbweight tow car) for the Landrover and Bailey is 73%. This means that the match between car and caravan is perfect. The stability and safety index is good for this outfit.

The towing performances of this Landrover with your Bailey are perfect (performance index = 65).
You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads it's easy to come along, top gear is applicable under normal circumstances.

On motorway inclines you will be able not only to come along, but be the first at the top. On steep roads you have more than sufficient power to keep going. On hill starts there will be more than enough power to get going, provided the wheels have traction.

A quick Google suggests that the Burgundy is a single-axle van with a laden weight of 1400kg? If so it's well within the Freelander's 2000kg towing limit.

Blimey how good is all that info.The wonders of the internet eh.Thanks very much for your help. my freelander is an 07 Stornoway grey HSE with full cream leather

Last edited by smudger53 on 8th Nov 2012 5:26 pm. Edited 1 time in total

You should have no problem towing the Burgundy Series 7 at 1445kg. I have the Bordeaux Series 7 model (bought Ocober 2009) that weighs slightly less at 1321kg and it tows easily. Caravan sits nice and level and having the noseweight around the 100kg region the van stays real stable.

I get around 26.5mpg towing with the automatic TD4 2.2 Diesel and I don't think that is too bad.

Good luck finding the van you want. I am selling my Bordeaux next spring (best time of the year for private sales) as the wife is less mobile now so if you don't find what you want and think a Bordeaux might suit you then feel free to PM me.

such a heavy monstrosity will fry the clutch as well at the patience of poor innocent fellow road users At work
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chicken george wrote:

such a heavy monstrosity will fry the clutch as well at the patience of poor innocent fellow road users

its partly factual that van is too big for a manual fl2, I would have genuine concerns about the clutch At work
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chicken george wrote:

its partly factual that van is too big for a manual fl2, I would have genuine concerns about the clutch

smudger53 wrote:

Blimey how good is all that info.The wonders of the internet eh.Thanks very much for your help.

Ben Twillie wrote:

What's the official difference in towing weight between the auto and manual?

Ben Twillie wrote:

BUT the Auto is better and would pull this van with no problems at all-but so will the manual

My Auto tows my twin axle no problem at all . Been up and down the Alps and the Pyrenees. Much prefer auto for towing and no problem with going down hill.

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Hi Smudger53

I'll get the camera out over the next couple of days and get some pictures and details of the caravan, awnings and bits & peices to you by email.

Here is a link to the Bailey brochure and spec sheet for the Series 7 vans which should give you a heads-up on them :-

www.nscaravans.co.uk/pdf/pageant.pdf

TrevorB