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parallax33



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Yup, definitely talking out of his arse...

Both manual and auto are fantastic in the snow, even tho the manual does smell a bit when slipped Smile

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Post #152263 24th Aug 2012 10:41 pm
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Apache



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Can only speak for the manual FL2 but no bother in snow:



I'm just parked there - she drove out nicely. About a foot deep - at points I was ploughing with the bumper!

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Post #152264 24th Aug 2012 10:42 pm
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AiiEEX



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Tell this manager that he is correct and that you have probably made a huge mistake getting the auto version.
This way you have an excuse NOT to be able to get to work when the snow gets heavy. After all, you don't want to be the only person there. Wink

Post #152266 24th Aug 2012 11:35 pm
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athelstan



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AiiEEX wrote:
Tell this manager that he is correct and that you have probably made a huge mistake getting the auto version.
This way you have an excuse NOT to be able to get to work when the snow gets heavy. After all, you don't want to be the only person there. Wink


Smart thinking Thumbs Up

Post #152274 25th Aug 2012 8:10 am
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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Zermatt Silver

athelstan wrote:
MartynB wrote:
I would not have attempted the tow with a manual


For all the Pontifract cakes in pontifica why not. Still there's nowt sa weird as Yorksha folk in a 4x4.


because I still have my dear departed dad's voice ringing in my head from 40 years ago " you burn the clutch out and you will change it !" Laughing in a tricky situation it's a lot better for me to have both hands on the wheel and not worry about slipping the clutch still each to his own 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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Post #152276 25th Aug 2012 8:25 am
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donny



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My auto with Wintracs fitted was unstoppable in the heavy winters we had a couple of years ago - even better than my D3. I went out of my way to try and get it stuck but it was having none of it - absolutely superb.

Post #152279 25th Aug 2012 9:22 am
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athelstan



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MartynB wrote:
you burn the clutch out and you will change it !" Laughing


Not that old motoring chestnut again Yawn

It is in the same vain as the debate over on which side of the road is it safest to drive - RHS or LHS. There is no clear winner Wink

If you are a heavy footed clot with little or no sensitivity for the "biting" aka take off point you will damage the clutch prematurely; on the other hand a sentient driver will enjoy tens of thousands of miles of trouble free manual gear change motoring over all types of terrain surfaces - with or without a towed unit Thumbs Up

There is only one environment where it can reasonably be claimed that an Auto box is "superior" to a Manual box and that is on densely conjested urban roads. With the average speed across London now down to 8mph., the stop go slow slow stop with a manual gear change creates additional driver fatigue. And so from a comfort perspective (reduced stress) the auto change is desirable Smile

Indeed it is no coincidence that that other comfort aid - the cruise control - was introduced. Driving hundreds of miles daily across repetitive prairie landscapes without lifting your right foot every now and again created discomfort levels that the driver sought to erradicate. And so the industry responded with the cruise control. Some legislative bodies sought to ban the device on the grounds of safety - and indeed they were right to do so (not that it would burn out like a clutch and suffer premature failure resulting in the halting of the vehicle) but in the wrong hands such a device could cause a fatal crash that would not just halt the vehicle, rather, scrap the vehicle and it's occupants for ever Shocked

For myself, despite the pros and cons, I enjoy the use of both Cruise Control and a Manual Gear change. Because both enhance my driving experience, as well as save me money. In fuel expenditure Cool

Post #152281 25th Aug 2012 9:48 am
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taztastic



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The word "manager" says it all........anyone with that title these days usually has an Audi, slicked hair and an aptitude for knowing very little about anything but believe every word of their own drivel.

Tell him to get back in his manual Avensis and procreate elsewhere. Laughing

Post #152282 25th Aug 2012 9:55 am
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Lookers Park Royal



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An Auto induces less wheel-spin naturally and is therefore better (but only marginally)........ fact!

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Post #152292 25th Aug 2012 12:04 pm
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Lebtiw



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Information on fl2 in snow

Hi I have a freelander 2 xs td4 2011 & it snowed a couple of days ago by me. I went to go out in the jeep but got stuck on the flat & was spinning. It was only light snow. It felt like the jeep was trying to control my driving & not me I tried knocking the traction off & switching to mud ruts, snow, sand etc but nothing worked I was stuck. I have normal road tyres but I have heard many people saying that theirs is great in the snow with road tyres so what am I doing wrong?
Does anyone have any advice what I can do e.g tyres.....
Thanks

Also my fl2 is manual 6 speed

Post #164137 12th Dec 2012 1:00 pm
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Ooma



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Which tyres do you have? although it still sounds surprising that this happened on light snow. '08 Freelander 2 HSE in Stornoway Grey

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Post #164139 12th Dec 2012 1:07 pm
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npinks



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if you have a LANDROVER FL2 what made you go out in the JEEP Shocked

my guess is freezing conditions and light covering of snow, made balck ice and only studded tyres will have helped

what sort of tread depth you have will play a role too, but putting in to GGS, with reduce wheel spin, and been lighter on the foot helps, but you still need to get the revs high enough for the car to lock up and engage 4x4

I had similar last year, parked on compacted snow which was iced over, car wouldn't move until i got the revs up and its full 4x4 system came into force and then moved ok


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Post #164141 12th Dec 2012 1:18 pm
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Big Dave



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Sounds like either;

black ice as NPinks has said.

Too heavy footed. In snow you don't need the throttle to get the car moving, all done with the clutch Thumbs Up Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
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Post #164143 12th Dec 2012 2:11 pm
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Lebtiw



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I have Pirelli tyres on there 18" they came standard with the fl2.
I don't understand how my fl2 wouldn't budge from one spot I was on grass outside my house & the wheels kept spinning & spinning it had only just started snowing so it wasn't deep snow.
Has this happend to anyone else ?
I wanted to know if the problem was with my tyres or.....

Post #164197 12th Dec 2012 9:40 pm
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npinks



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Maybe filled the tread with mud from the grass, then tyres became slicks and no grip

Or bogged down in a rut on wet grass

Post #164199 12th Dec 2012 9:43 pm
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