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mudslinger



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Could this be true or just a load of TOSH..!!

Is there an element of truth in the content. or just plain Tosh.!!

(all looks a bit strange after the 3rd malt whiskey ..)


Some Good information:

Car manual's say to roll down the windows to let out all the hot
air before turning on the A/C. WHY?

No wonder more folks are dying from cancer than ever before. We wonder
where this stuff comes from but here is an example that explains a lot
of the cancer causing incidents.

Many people are in their cars the first thing in the morning; and the
last thing at night, 7 days a week.

As I read this, it makes me feel guilty and ill. Please pass this on
to as many people as possible. Guess it’s not too late to make some
changes.

Car A/C (Air Conditioning) MUST READ!!!

Please do NOT turn on A/C as soon as you enter the car

Open the windows after you enter your car, and then turn ON the AC
after a couple of minutes

Here's why: According to research, the car's dashboard, seats, a/c
ducts in fact ALL of the plastic objects in your vehicle, emit
Benzene, a Cancer causing toxin; A BIG CAR CINOGEN. Take the time to
observe the smell of heated plastic in your car, when you open it, and
BEFORE you start it up.In addition to causing cancer, Benzene poisons
your bones, causes anemia and reduces white blood cells. Prolonged
exposure will cause Leukemia and increases the risk of some cancers.
It can also cause miscarriages in pregnant females.

Acceptable Benzene level indoors is: 50mg per sq.ft.

A car parked indoors, with windows closed, will contain 400‐800 mg of Benzene.

If parked outdoors, under the sun, at a temperature above 60 degrees
F, the Benzene level goes up to 2000‐4000 mg, 40 times the acceptable
level.

People, who get into the car, keeping the windows closed, will
inevitably inhale, in quick succession, excessive amounts of the
BENZENE toxin.

Benzene is a toxin that affects your kidneys and liver. What's worse,
it is extremely difficult for your body to expel this toxic stuff from
your body.

So friends, please open the windows and door of your car ‐ give it
some time for the interior to air out...Smile


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Post #147321 1st Jul 2012 7:11 am
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nicedayforit



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Don't know about the chemicals emitted inside the car but I always thought you opened the windows on a hot car to let out most of the excess heat before using the ac to reduce the load on the ac and thus achieve a cool car quicker.

Post #147322 1st Jul 2012 7:18 am
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alex_pescaru



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Yeah, right, suppose, about the levels of benzene (?)...

But what this have to do with the AC and its later start?
Why can't you open the windows AND start the AC on the same time?
Does the AC earlier start influences in any way the level of benzene?

For conformity, here's the article.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/automobiles/a/benzene_in_car.htm
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Forwarded email claims car interiors contain toxic levels of cancer-causing benzene emitted by dashboards, car seats, and air fresheners. It recommends opening windows to expel trapped benzene gas before turning on the car air conditioner.

Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: May 2009
Status: Grain of truth / Overblown

Analysis: While it isn't 100% false, the above text is a font of misinformation.

Starting with the basics, it's true that benzene is a toxic chemical known to produce a variety of ill health effects, including anemia and cancer (specifically leukemia) in humans.

The substance occurs both naturally (mainly as a component of crude oil) and as a byproduct of human activities, e.g. as a component of petroleum-based products (such as gasoline) and products manufactured using benzene as a solvent (such as plastics, synthetic fibers, dyes, glues, detergents, and drugs). It's also a constituent of tobacco smoke.

Low levels of benzene are typically present in outdoor air due to automobile exhaust and industrial emissions. Thanks to vapors emitted by household products such as glues, paints, and furniture wax, even higher levels of benzene can sometimes be found in indoor air, especially in new buildings.

Benzene in cars

Do automobile dashboards, door panels, seats, and other interior components emit benzene, as claimed in the email? Most likely. In most cars these items are made from plastics, synthetic fabrics, and glues, some of which are manufactured using benzene. According to scientists, such items may "off-gas" trace amounts of benzene, especially under hot weather conditions.

As to car air fresheners, there's precious little information available about the ingredients, though one European study found that some household air fresheners emit measurable amounts of benzene. It's not inconceivable that some car air fresheners do, too.

The crucial question is how much. Might all of these potential emitters cumulatively give off enough benzene to harm your health?

What the scientists say

Most of the published studies wherein benzene levels were measured inside passenger vehicles have been done under driving conditions, in traffic. So, while such studies have indeed found that in-vehicle benzene levels can significantly exceed those outside the vehicle, and could pose a human health hazard, this is mainly attributed to the presence of exhaust fumes.

Also, the amounts of benzene actually detected by researchers, albeit significant, were much, much smaller than the amounts stated in the email. A 2006 study summarizing all the data collected to date reported in-vehicle benzene levels from exhaust fumes ranging from .013 mg to .56 mg per cubic meter — a far cry from the 400 mg to 4,000 mg per square foot (do they mean cubic foot?) reported above.

Benzene levels in parked cars

In the one study I was able to find that measured benzene levels inside parked cars with their engines turned off, the results were more benign. Toxicologists took samples of the air inside both a new and a used vehicle under simulated hot-sunlight conditions, measuring the levels of volatile organic compounds (VOCs) including C3- and C4-alkylbenzenes, and exposing human and animal cells to the samples to determine their toxicity. Despite the detectable presence of VOCs (a total of 10.9 mg per cubic meter in the new car and 1.2 mg per cubic meter in the old car), no toxic effects were observed. Apart from noting the slight possibility that allergy-prone individuals might find their condition exacerbated by exposure to such compounds, the study concluded there is "no apparent health hazard of parked motor vehicle indoor air."

When in doubt, ventilate

Despite this finding, some drivers may still be concerned about the presence of any benzene vapors inside their car, especially given the World Health Organization's stated position that there is "no safe level of exposure" to the carcinogen. They may also worry, per the email warning above, that turning on the vehicle's air conditioner might exacerbate their exposure to trapped toxins by recirculating contaminated air. If that's the case, there's no harm done — and much peace of mind to be gained — by simply opening the windows and ventilating the car before turning it on.

Post #147325 1st Jul 2012 7:28 am
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chicken george



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I put benzene in my coffee,, gives me super powers At work
At home

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Smells nice though, sooner have it to sweaty feet and armpits smell any day!

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dunroof



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chicken george wrote:
They put Bromide in my coffee, dulls my powers


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mudslinger



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dunroof wrote:
chicken george wrote:
They put Bromide in my coffee, dulls my powers


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Hmm may need "Green Lantern..." charge my ring .... Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Wales
Were the mud is thicker, and the ruts are deeper.
(And we have the water to wash it off, and more on the way..! )
Sd4 and chrome Ar*e piece, Auto box for best fun
09 Xs Gone
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When getting into my car on hot days, I usually roll all the windows down and drive with them open for a minute or so just to get the hot air out of the cabin.

(In this country that means I do it about 12 times a year). Whistle 2013 RR Evoque Pure Tech
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Bugblatter



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dunroof wrote:
chicken george wrote:
They put Bromide in my coffee, dulls my powers


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Reminds me of the Top Cat lyrics "Close friends get to call him TC, bromide it gets whipped in the tea"

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Its a load of TOSH as you put it : http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/benzene.htm

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D99



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i've never heard this one before but mines usually parked on the drive with sunroof & sometimes windows open on a hot day, if im parked in a carpark i often just hold the unlock button down on the fob while approaching the vehicle and that will open your windows and let most of the hot air out before you get in.

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