Just returned from Val D'Isere - and the FL2 was awesome.

Completely planted on the motorways - and agile in the mountains.

Anyway - I found the TR system (mud, snow, grass setting) to be really useful in the mountains. It smoothed the engine response - meaning that you can power out of tight hairpin bends without wheel spinning on snow / ice. Furthermore - it allowed the engine to pull from much lower revs without the engine complaining. Normally on the road setting - the engine complains if it is loaded at revs below 1500. But on the mud/snow/ ice setting I could pull out of 180 hairpin bends on steep slopes with the revs below 1000 - and the engine was fine.

However - the most useful aspect of the mud/snow/ice setting was found on the return journey - when stuck in traffic in French villages and stuck in traffic jams on the motorways. By switching to this m/s/ice setting again - it made the Fl2 much easier and smoother to drive - while edging forward in the traffic jams.

For those that drive in / through cities, or those that use the M6 or M25 etc etc - just try this setting next time you are creeping forward in a traffic jam.

I know what you mean about the throttle responce on the grass/snow setting, I put my car in to this when towing my caravan as it makes it flow up the revs smoother.

In traffic jams i like the anti-stall side of the engine on my manual FL2, set the rev and pull away and then take you foot of the accelorator and even on up hill roads the car creeps forward so you don't need to ride the clutch. If your gaining on the car in front press the brake to slow you a little (not too slow or you'll stall)  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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snow/grass mode =traffic mode?
i guess it is just polution mode without any need...

SkyDive - I would not be too sure about your remark. Just try it out and than comment.
Jimmy has reported his EXPERIENCE as a very valuable advise to all of us.
Thank you Jimmy.

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yamaha-fan -SkyDive - I would not be too sure about your remark. Just try it out and than comment.
Jimmy has reported his EXPERIENCE as a very valuable advise to all of us.
Thank you Jimmy.
You mean you tried it yourself and experienced better mpg in traffic?
My comment was based clearly on mpg.The engine for sure will respond smoother due to the program selection.-->Greater torque in smaller speeds. Im guessing greater mpg -->more mpg=polution i guess again,especialy in traffic when u accelerate (stop start) in a greater frequency.(And yes i use TR Alot)

I know this is off topic a bit but why do you need greater Torque at low speeds for snow/grass?

Surely that would make the wheels spin more?

I can understand why you would need that on rock climbs etc but I dont see the advantage on a slippy surface. Surely the TR should limit the power to the wheels on such surfaces?

I was always taught to drive very 'gently' in snow even using 2nd gear to pull away 'gently' from stand still to ensure the torque delivered was smaller and thus discourage the wheels spinning out.

I know I must be wrong, but being an engineer head I'm interested to know why!

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you don't need to use the greater torque but having it easily available means you can apply the power or back off with ease, smooth control=less spin

Hi all,

In my opinion - using the Mud/Snow/Grass setting in start-stop traffic must reduce the overall fuel consumption.

Using the normal setting - you have to "over-rev" the engine to gain sufficient momemtum to edge the FL2 forward (overcoming it's weight, friction etc etc). Immediately afterwards, you have to brake, after "lurching" forward, so as to not hit the car in front.

The M/S/G setting avoids all this jerky driving - and avoids most of the "harsh" braking. And it's the braking which is a 100% waste of fuel. Anything that reduces the need to brake, improves your mpg - since you are using fuel to go forward - and not then wasting the forward movement, with braking.

This fuel economy is just a nice side benefit - I use the M/S/G setting in traffic because it results in a nicer, smoother driving movement for me and my passengers. I can definitely see that my dog (who is not seat-belted) does not lose his balance & get thrown around in the boot as much.

(And n-pinks had a nice expression when using M/S/G - when he said it provides a nice "anti-stall" driving experience - which is a very good way to summarise).

jimmy wrote:

This fuel economy is just a nice side benefit - I use the M/S/G setting in traffic because it results in a nicer, smoother driving movement for me and my passengers. I can definitely see that my dog (who is not seat-belted) does not lose his balance & get thrown around in the boot as much.

(And n-pinks had a nice expression when using M/S/G - when he said it provides a nice "anti-stall" driving experience - which is a very good way to summarise).

Just found this old thread... will give it a go when I'm in traffic next.

My thanks to the OP.

T Terran



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No disrespect to the OP, and I will try this next time I'm in stop-start traffic, maybe it's just me but I really do NOT recognise this...

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Using the normal setting - you have to "over-rev" the engine to gain sufficient momemtum to edge the FL2 forward (overcoming it's weight, friction etc etc). Immediately afterwards, you have to brake, after "lurching" forward, so as to not hit the car in front.

I agree 'Stubbenoldgit', when stuck in any sort of traffic it was so easy to let the clutch out with just the engine on tickover, certainly nothing that would have had me wishing for something to make it easier.

That setting does dull the throttle response a little so I suppose for anyone heavy footed it might help, but no need in my opinion.

how do the different modes relate to 0-60 times just out of interest... I know that 1st gear the torque is limited but is it limited in all modes ? When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car