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landy19840 Member Since: 13 Mar 2011 Location: Non Posts: 1817 |
That would not be a vosa issue, technically it's driving without a licence |
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9th Mar 2012 9:43 pm |
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Past master Member Since: 30 Jun 2010 Location: Isle of Ely Posts: 2710 |
And driving without a licence = driving without insurance. Don't do it. |
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9th Mar 2012 9:48 pm |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
It is still one of the questions they ask when tugged |
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9th Mar 2012 9:49 pm |
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Past master Member Since: 30 Jun 2010 Location: Isle of Ely Posts: 2710 |
This may relate:
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9th Mar 2012 9:55 pm |
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Past master Member Since: 30 Jun 2010 Location: Isle of Ely Posts: 2710 |
And there#'s more here: http://www.dvtani.gov.uk/compliance/tachographsfaqs.asp#15
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9th Mar 2012 9:58 pm |
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Peter33 Member Since: 31 Aug 2008 Location: Hexham Posts: 66 |
I'm afraid it's Northumberland to Somerset |
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9th Mar 2012 11:33 pm |
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Peter33 Member Since: 31 Aug 2008 Location: Hexham Posts: 66 |
If only! Passed my test in 1973 |
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9th Mar 2012 11:34 pm |
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Peter33 Member Since: 31 Aug 2008 Location: Hexham Posts: 66 |
Thank you all for your contributions and helpful answers! As you can read it's a very grey area
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9th Mar 2012 11:37 pm |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
My reading in to this is it will be under the 3.5t, on the vehicle plate under the bonnet will give you your vehicle weight limits, (not going out to look at this time of night) but if the MAM of the tow vehicle is below 2.5t and the trailer has a plate on it giving the maximum weight of 1000kgs, you total MAM wil be below the 3.5t threshold.
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9th Mar 2012 11:53 pm |
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chicken george Member Since: 05 Dec 2007 Location: N. Yorks Posts: 13289 |
seems it much depends on your reason for towing. if for hire or reward you defiantly need a tacho.
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10th Mar 2012 8:03 am |
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Ghyllie Member Since: 19 Jul 2011 Location: Over looking Loch Ness with Nessie by my side Posts: 159 |
Simple answer is no you do not need one, I do not have one on my Navara which is capable of and do's carry and tow way more than a freebie.Tacho's are fitted to keep a check on drivers hours. commercial RRs, Defenders do not have them and Transits and others of that ilk do not have them fitted (as standard) by the way if you do have one fitted you must use it ALL the time, you cannot just use "when working" as the chart MUST BY LAW have an unbroken mileage record,an unbroken trace and a complete record of use over every 24 hour period, 7 days a week (although these can be done manually) and the records must be kept for at least 6 months, the charts MUST be kept in good condition, they are carboned for the tracer so are easily damaged and any damaged ones are illegal, your name, to and from and mileage must be complete and run consecutively any "missing" miles etc is illegal also you must stop and take statutary breaks approx' every couple of hours but this is complicated, as a rough guide the longer you drive the longer the break but you cannot drive for more than 3 hours at one time (I think ) and after 8 hours ( you can extend this but the "extra" hour must be "taken" back the next day, you must stop for your daily break, 8 hours minimum, oh! and it must be inspected every 2 years and recalibrated every 6 years, this is just the basics, failure to comply with any of these WILL cost money, up to £2000 for each offence. enjoy
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10th Mar 2012 8:10 am |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
I think it will come under Tachograph Regs, the book on my Fl 2 states that the GVW on one is 2505 kgs, if this is coupled to a trailer which has a plate stating MAM 1000kgs, this adds up to 5kg over the threshold. It would be legal in a standard Fl2 as it is not classed as a commercial vehicle and Taxed as Provate, but not if it is classed as commercial and taxed as Goods.
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10th Mar 2012 9:33 am |
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dunkley201 Member Since: 09 Jul 2011 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 2739 |
Ghyllie, I am sorry, but you are wrong there. I drive HGVs. I can confirm if you have a gross weight exceeding 3.5T or a gross train weight also exceeding 3.5T the vehicle should be fitted with a tachograph. Therefore, the op's FL2 will have a GVW of 2502kg = no tacho needed. Fit a tow bar and trailer and, although LR state the GTW is 4505kg, for commercial purposes, the GTW cannot exceed 3.5T without a tacho being fitted. The law in this regard is not fully understood by everyone (including me ), even traffic cops. (and therefore rarely arises - except when in an accident - the Selby train crash comes to mind) You, yourself may well be sailing close to the wind and may be found liable if pulled in to a VOSA inspection. 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone) 08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone) |
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10th Mar 2012 11:28 am |
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Mona Geeza Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 1293 |
Geoff Capes used to tow a truck and 40' trailer for reward during the Worlds Strongest Man Competition. Mind you he probably ate the Tachos, chilli flavour. |
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10th Mar 2012 7:31 pm |
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