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Peter33



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Tachograph Law

Any experts out there?

Do I need to fit a Tacho to my FL2 Commercial to do ANY towing, or is it weight related?

Everybody I consult has a different answer,
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Tigger



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It's weight related and no, you can't legally tow enough behind the Freelander to need a Tacho. You'll need an all up weight of 5 tonnes to need one.

A Disco can be loaded up to a total train weight of over 5 tonnes though....
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Good question, I thought that tachagraphs were only fitted to HGVs and that it was weight limit related
Post #135480 9th Mar 2012 9:35 pm
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Peter33



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Thank you Tigger, although the limit I've been quoted is a Gross Train Weight of 3500kg and the GTW of the Freelander is 4500kg
Post #135482 9th Mar 2012 9:38 pm
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landy19840



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I thought if you are towing for commercial reasons you need a tachometer?
Post #135483 9th Mar 2012 9:39 pm
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Peter33



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landy19840 wrote:
I thought if you are towing for commercial reasons you need a tachometer?


That's what I've also been told, I guess the only way to find out is to get 'pulled over'
Post #135484 9th Mar 2012 9:40 pm
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landy19840



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And you can exceed more than 3500kg
Post #135486 9th Mar 2012 9:45 pm
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I remember seeing Angus Nairn on traffic cops pull a guy over in worcester who was in a LR defender towing a trailer with an old Range Rover on, first question asked 'where's your tachograph?' (sad that I remember all the detail i know!)

If you are towing for commercial reasons you need a tachograph, personally i thing you should have one for towing white boxes in the summer as well, limit em to 2 hours travelling per day... Thumbs Up
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Tigger



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You're right, I'm wrong. It is 3.5 tonnes. Mind you, there's more to it than that and here's a rarely useful link:

http://www.fleetadvice.co.uk/index.php?opt...Itemid=185
Post #135489 9th Mar 2012 9:51 pm
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A bit complex, if it is for business purposes you will be in Tachograph territory.

http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/smal...eaflet.pdf
Post #135490 9th Mar 2012 9:53 pm
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Peter33



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Tigger wrote:
You're right, I'm wrong. It is 3.5 tonnes. Mind you, there's more to it than that and here's a rarely useful link:

http://www.fleetadvice.co.uk/index.php?opt...Itemid=185


Thanks again Tigger, good link.
I've been asked to tow a 1000kg Wood Chipper, although that puts my kerb weight upto 2900kg, I still think that because my GTW is 4500kg I still need a Tacho.
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landy19840



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You can surely reach 4000kg fully laiden
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Another point is if you past your test after 1997 you are limited to a MAM of 3.5t with a standard licence.
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landy19840



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No one ever checks tho!! No law about driving a tractor and 15ton trailer tho
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Don't they Shocked Vosa are hot on that one.
Post #135504 9th Mar 2012 10:35 pm
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