Ok guys and girls I am new here and have just purchased a freelander 2 yay (my ultimate dream car)!!! Anyway down to business, I noticed that diesel chips offer more power and torque from the engine and apparently offer better fuel economy at low to mid revs. Can anyone give me an insight into how these chips work and what the pro's and CONS! are in regards to the engine as I intend to keep this car...

Thanks Chris

you stand more chance of cooking the already fragile clutch, £1300ish,, engine is fine with extra chipping an auto is safer, but some would say whats the point chipping a slush box,, manuals suit the idea of a chip much more


fuel economy gains hard to quantify and unproven so far by chipped members on here



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In addition to the above, the ECU map already restricts torque in 1st gear because the manual box is working at it's maximum designed torque capacity. Be very careful that a re-map does not remove this safety feature, one member believes his gearbox 'implosion' was due to a chipped ECU.

Choose a re-map and not a module that plugs in between the ECU and injectors, these just 'over fuel' and increase 'boost'.

Welcome to the forum Chris, good choice of car!

Do you really need more power? I would suggest using the car for a few months and then thinking about it. I don't feel I need more than the 160ish BHP that the standard engine produces, and I find the torque is sufficient. Maybe if you regularly tow a caravan you may benefit. As far as economy goes, I get around 32 mpg on mixed motorway and mainly town driving, and I'm not soft on the accelerator, just smooth . On a run down the motorway I get around 45mpg. I always use Shell diesel as I find the car runs smoother and does more mpg.

I'm not an expert, but I believe that re-chips alter the fuelling parameters (ie, how much and for how long fuel is injected for), perhaps one of the site sponsors could explain?

Others may advise you to re-chip, but I found that so far I don't need more power, and mine is still under extended warranty, so I don't want to risk rejected claims.  Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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The other thing to consider is insurance: if you are upping the output of the engine it is a "performance increasing modification" and you may find that your insurer a) does not want to know you or b) wants a higher premium. You may also decide you are not going to tell your insurer

You may also want to consider re-map or module,

I am not anti - I have both on my bike( map for Lambda sensor removal & de cat exhausts /higher rev limit + piggy back Module for air fuel ratio set up on a dyno (and I told the insurer, one of the few who would cover me, about every mod) but no way am I going to put one on the Freelander because it does not need it for the use that we give it which is 90% my wife going to the shops. 10% me taking it to work on the odd snowy day etc.

The advantage of a map is that it is visually undetectable after an accident should you have not insured it. The disadvantage of the module is it is discoverable, you cause an accident, the 3rd party costs are astronomical, and your car which has been impounded and subject to a police/insurance investigation is found to have a "plug in".............

so as said by the guys earlier do you need it ? are you prepared for hidden costs insurance/ fuel? and at the end of the day remember you will be giving your money to someone based on faith. unless you see before and after dyno runs on your own vehiclehow do you know that you are getting what you have paid for ? and where abouts in the rev range the increase in power/torque is ? and how much of it is getting to the back wheels.How many miles on the car you want to "chip" is it in good enough condition to take a power increase ( ps seeing your own property on a dyno run is a terryfying sight ) 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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THANKS GUYS!

I have looked at everything you all said and have come to the conclusion the standard engine is more than ample for what i need, plus the fact this type of mod does not drastically increase mpg either! For the £300 I'd spend on the mod I could do nearly a thousand miles for that! Thanks guys!

I work for the Fire Service and I can assure you that we are instructed NOT to disconnect the battery on vehicles involved in collisions unless absolutley necessary, because it allows the interrogation of the ECU stored memory of engine and other performance parameters at the time of the 'accident' and from a short while before.

This is used as part of the accident investigation by both the police - to determin if there is any crime committed or any contributing factors - speeding, heavy accelleration or braking etc... - and by insurance companies to determin if anything that would affect the validity of a claim is evident. They will get out of having to pay if AT ALL possible.

You should therefore note that the claim that a remap is not 'visible' is correct in that you cannot physically see it, but it is incorrect in that it is easily discovered by the police or insurance experts when they simply do a "check sum" comparison between the original and current map in the ECU, and from that they are able to determin the performance increase - indeed that is not really relevant either as any change from original, if not delared to the insurance company, is seen as a modification and they wont pay if you have not told them about it.

You should also note that simply disconnecting the battery does not remove the ability to look at the ECU map, but just removes stored event logs.

The moral here is - if you remap then make sure you inform the insurenace company! They have a right to know as it affects the risk they accept and the cost of accepting that risk or not is reflected in the premium or thier refusal to cover it.

Jon

One question popped to my mind. Is there any difference between the sd4 and td4 beside the engine map, and the sticker on the tailgate?

If the car can handle 190 hp of the sd4 already, why not map it? 2010 Freelander 2 Select TD4 auto....gone
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Wintermute wrote:

One question popped to my mind. Is there any difference between the sd4 and td4 beside the engine map, and the sticker on the tailgate?

If the car can handle 190 hp of the sd4 already, why not map it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Diesel-Tuning-Ch...45feb0616b

Is this one any good I was thinking if you dont drive hard would it be ok.

russben wrote:

Welcome to the forum Chris, good choice of car!

Do you really need more power? I would suggest using the car for a few months and then thinking about it. I don't feel I need more than the 160ish BHP that the standard engine produces,