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alex_pescaru



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In any case we are worlds away from the FL2 here

As the direction this topic had turn... Rolling Eyes
Post #124323 19th Dec 2011 10:59 pm
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gDallasK



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

With cars, simpler is better. I'll keep my manual thanks. The map is not the territory

2011 TD4 GS Manual - Gone
2014 SD4 XS Auto - Gone
2018 Jaguar E-Pace R-Dynamic 180 AWD
Post #124338 20th Dec 2011 9:22 am
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chicken george



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

I get were your coming from but sadly dual mass fly wheels fitted to manuals are far from simple. At work
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Post #124344 20th Dec 2011 10:14 am
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MartynB



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Zermatt Silver

chicken george wrote:
I get were your coming from but sadly dual mass fly wheels fitted to manuals are far from simple.




absolutely, thet are far removed from the cast lump of old the link explains them pretty well 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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Post #124347 20th Dec 2011 11:46 am
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gDallasK



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

chicken george wrote:
I get were your coming from but sadly dual mass fly wheels fitted to manuals are far from simple.


Well, maybe they now work a bit better :

"Diesel-powered Freelanders with manual gearboxes have always featured a dual mass flywheel to ensure engine refinement at start, stop and low speeds. A new Polyetheretherketone friction control plate has been developed for the Freelander TD4_e. This is able to withstand seven times the pressure of the outgoing plate, to ensure greater levels of refinement under even greater start and stop demands."

Time will tell ...... The map is not the territory

2011 TD4 GS Manual - Gone
2014 SD4 XS Auto - Gone
2018 Jaguar E-Pace R-Dynamic 180 AWD
Post #124355 20th Dec 2011 1:07 pm
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alex_pescaru



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A little joke I heard the other day...

- Why crows caw when they fly?
- They change gears...
Post #124836 23rd Dec 2011 10:57 pm
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chicken george



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

gDallasK wrote:


"Diesel-powered Freelanders with manual gearboxes have always featured a dual mass flywheel to ensure engine refinement at start, stop and low speeds. A new Polyetheretherketone friction control plate has been developed for the Freelander TD4_e. This is able to withstand seven times the pressure of the outgoing plate, to ensure greater levels of refinement under even greater start and stop demands."

Time will tell ......


I hope your right, but they have had years and years developing auto boxes so the reliabilty should now be built into autos instead of relying on some new fangled plastic plate.


someone once sold me a forklift truck with fancy plastic last forever bushes....... he lied Big Cry At work
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Post #124840 23rd Dec 2011 11:53 pm
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AndyC



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Norway 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Stornoway Grey

Pegleg wrote:
alex_pescaru wrote:
To put some gas on the fire.... Laughing

The new 911...
Do you see something interesting?
And if we can't talk here about "feeling in control", then I give up...

Yes Alex, only two pedals,
and on the wrong side Smile .


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Post #124850 24th Dec 2011 8:40 am
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geoffk



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Sumatra Black

My only regret is NOT getting the auto when i bought...If you have the choice go for the auto.i wish i had..
The times i have sat in long lines of traffic with a aching ankle is not funny as offlroad is just loads better.
Post #124865 24th Dec 2011 3:15 pm
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Dave



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Scotland 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Indus Silver

gDallasK wrote:
chicken george wrote:
I get were your coming from but sadly dual mass fly wheels fitted to manuals are far from simple.


Well, maybe they now work a bit better :

"Diesel-powered Freelanders with manual gearboxes have always featured a dual mass flywheel to ensure engine refinement at start, stop and low speeds. A new Polyetheretherketone friction control plate has been developed for the Freelander TD4_e. This is able to withstand seven times the pressure of the outgoing plate, to ensure greater levels of refinement under even greater start and stop demands."

Time will tell ......



PEEK is a very hard material, the only problem with it is that it goes soft as the temperature rises.
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Post #124867 24th Dec 2011 3:36 pm
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freefrom



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England 2012 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Buckingham Blue

PEEK does get softer slowly above around 145 c (its semi crystaline) but with a melt temp of 350 c it would need to get pretty hot before it had a significant issue, also its got very good slip properties just don't put hot benzene on it! Laughing

Nick
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freefrom



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England 2012 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Buckingham Blue

Forgot to say I have to go for manual due to the CO2 and car tax issues and the company look at the mpg as well , so can Landrover make an Auto with lower CO2 and better MPG along the lines of Audi Multitronic?

Nick
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1STFREELANDER



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

Just read in a magazine that Ferrai is no longer selling manual cars, just their dual clutch auto.
Post #124912 25th Dec 2011 10:54 am
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chrisdeeming



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2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Santorini Black

I think an auto would compliment the car nicely however I prefer to be in control of the gears Smile plus the manual was cheaper Razz we're not made of money lol! well some of us are but not me!! Smile
Post #125447 31st Dec 2011 12:34 am
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stuarts the man



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Wife reckons auto is nicer to drive,but picked a manual because it came with leather WTF
Post #125642 1st Jan 2012 12:28 pm
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