Never saw any snow until this morning at home, was on Paisley Tuesday night, he'll of a trip up, the nearside tyres will do another 300 miles more than the offside after the fun with the wind, the top of Shap was a bit scary and the section of the M74 at Metal Bridge was a bit hairy. Aberdeen was clear also.

Heated Screen and PTC better than de-icer and won't ruin the wiper blades

I was a day behind you, freely much better than Merc was in crosswinds.
Wipers, note to self, make sure there off before starting I'll learn.

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We're you in Scotland this week, not much snow around, -7 in Elgin this morning, was seriously impressed with the heated screen and ptc.

Totally agree with you re the heated screen, last winter i would come out and jump in at the normal time to go to work, press the prog button wait a minute or so, flick the wipers on and then drive off to work, passing all my neighbours who had been out for 10 - 15 minutes de-Icing their cars. The funny thing is most of them would wave at me, but as it was that cold some only used a couple of Fingers while one or two only used the one Finger

Agreed about heated windscreen and PTC heater but why is it that only the front washer jets are heated?

Is it a case of the front one's being close to the engine and bits and pieces but the back one is effectively miles away and therefore too difficult to have a heated jet? LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
LOT (Lord of Time) - University of Gallifrey

Heated jets require just two wires, one to 0 volts and the other ign. They are self thermostactically controlled.
So, the answer to your question is that the rear jet is just as easy to heat as the front.
The reason why it isn't, cost saving.
Sad innit? Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

Pegleg wrote:

Heated jets require just two wires, one to 0 volts and the other ign. They are self thermostactically controlled.
So, the answer to your question is that the rear jet is just as easy to heat as the front.
The reason why it isn't, cost saving.
Sad innit?

You wont get heated rear jet now or in the future on FL2 because of tooling changes needed for the CHMSL. Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

Never had the rear jet freeze, maybe because the jet is enclosed in the rear brake light, it gets a bit of protection, even getting a bit of heat from the lamp as opposed to the fronts sat on the bonnet with an exposed nipple have in the cold air constantly over it, so rather it being a case of penny pinching have they not fitted it because there is no need for it

For me it hasto be the auto, I think it suits the car better. As for the "I like to be in control" camp you have to ask why the LR experience only use autos. I have to say the auto box of my 11 plate SD4 is nowhere near as smooth as on my previous TD4, as for fuel economy I cannot get mine to show more than 31mpg, no matter how I drive it.
I did get Stratstone of Woodford to look at the box but they came back with no fault found. I t would be a boring world if we were all the same, but for me it has to be auto.

Last winter when it was seriously cold I used good quality washer fluid neat to ensure the fluid didn't freeze in the pipes. I also reversed the car onto the drive so the rear was close to the house and consequently the rear screen had no frost or ver minimal frost on it. Despite all that, the rear washer jet wouldn't work. Only when I had driven the 16 miles to work did it cough and splutter into life. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
LOT (Lord of Time) - University of Gallifrey

Sorry 1stfreelander but I am not bothered about why LR use autos or the percentage of faults on manual. I think the manual suits it better and would never change. If I had to have an auto for medical reasons, then it would be the end of FL2 ownership and time to buy an auto with a dual clutch that hopefully wouldn't have the jerky nature of the FL2 auto. For now I will stick with the slick manual and if the clutch fails tomorrow I will still prefer it to the auto. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
LOT (Lord of Time) - University of Gallifrey

Only a manual give the feed back needed to harness the full affects of the patented snow groove.


apart from that autos rule  At work
At home

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chicken george wrote:

Only a manual give the feed back needed to harness the full affects of the patented snow groove.


apart from that autos rule

Boring zzzzz

Manual is far superior. Cheaper to run and tax and cheaper to buy and smoother with no jerky kickdown. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
LOT (Lord of Time) - University of Gallifrey

Doc,
Don't know what you mean by jerky nature of FL2 Auto, I've had 3 and only noticable if you pull away sharply from standstill and then only if you have been in N and select D . Still dosn't bother me when I can see all the would be boy racers and BMW's in my mirror. All FL2's (3) Gone
2011 Mercedes C180 CGI Gone
FL2 GS Auto SD with heated leather, factory tints, alloy spare and a few other bits.

I can beat crappy boy racers if I want but that's not why I got the FL2. Any decent hot hatch or BMW would destroy the SD4 anyway. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
LOT (Lord of Time) - University of Gallifrey