Looking at getting my car chipped by a proffesional company who re-map the ecu. Just wondered if many others have had this done and is it worth it? I mainly want more mid range power in 3rd-4th gears

landy19840 wrote:

Looking at getting my car chipped by a proffesional company who re-map the ecu. Just wondered if many others have had this done and is it worth it? I mainly want more mid range power in 3rd-4th gears

I think this has been discussed many times, and as I recall possibly the manual gearbox isnt up to more power?

anyone - can you clarify pls? 

in general I am not a fan of chipping for extra power, but last Sunday I was blown away by a Ford C Max, and wished then I had a wee bit more power !!

had just left a roundabout on the M9 and going up a slight incline and he just left me, it was a diesel as you could his smoke,

Iain

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic10212.htm...box+torque

Iain, I believe the Ford has a very similiar engine to that in the SD4, maybe a little more powerful, they quote 200PS against the SD4 190PS. It is a lighter car a certainly will fly.

taztastic wrote:

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic10212.html?highlight=manual+gearbox+torque

Iain, I believe the Ford has a very similiar engine to that in the SD4, maybe a little more powerful, they quote 200PS against the SD4 190PS. It is a lighter car a certainly will fly.

I can't find a C MAX with a bigger engine than 140PS but with it being lighter on it's feet it will be more nimble.

..... and correct that the Freely manual box is at it's limit regarding torque (380Nm designed) with 400Nm going through it, not to mention the clutch, 1st gear has it's torque electronically limited because of this.

You are right EY, C-Max is only 140PS, I looked at S-Max, freelander should keep up with C-Max as the figures are not startling, unless it was chipped or indeed an S-Max?

taztastic wrote:

You are right EY, C-Max is only 140PS, I looked at S-Max, freelander should keep up with C-Max as the figures are not startling, unless it was chipped or indeed an S-Max?

My other car is a Focus RS, which I have had dyno'd to 308bhp.

Several friends joined me on the day it was done and had their RS's done at the same time. What really shocked me was the difference in the results between those who had had their cars chipped for maximum bhp (one read 370bhp) and those that had had their cars much more extensively (and expensively) modified to produce around 345bhp.

Those with the simple chip to 370bhp definitely achieved the extra power, but the mid range (which is what you really need, unless for reasons of bar room bragging), was very slightly worse.

The 345bhp cars with around £2500 worth of hardware achieved torque curves to die for and even made me consider stumping up the cash for mine to be done!

The moral of this story is that I wouldn't even consider a simple remap without seeing genuine examples of before and after power curves and would doubt that anything that involved a simple remap would give anything other than great (but otherwise pretty meaningless) headline power figures.

Meanwhile, if you disclose the modifications, your insurance renewal may become a complete nightmare. If you choose not to declare it, DO NOT run into my car uninsured!

Had my 07 auto done with a custom remap last year at about 30k miles - gave it a new lease of life and I have never regretted it. Don't see much (if any) MPG improvements but it shifts along much better

I had my '07 FL2 done last year and it was the best thing I ever did. Loads more grunt and I get an extra 5 mpg!!

Superchips is probably the best re-map available for FL2, it also comes with Bluefin which allows you to swap and change.

Superchips developed this on their own FL2 so it was well and truly put through it's paces before release. Mine has been done since the end of 2007 and so far not one issue.

The manual gearbox is fine as torque is limited in 1st and reverse. Just like the standard map. But if you abuse it, you will be asking for trouble, but this can go for a standard car also. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Mav
I had a Superchip map put on my 57reg from new, they over cooked the torque resulting in a exploding gearbox at 26k miles (18mths old). the car was fast tho
I recently had my Passat done by Carbon In Altrincham and the result is truly amazing, I would say a better result than on my Fl2, Carbon also buy cars for research and development including a Fl2 and a Disco. They had an M3 an AMG merc and a Black cab on test when I was there

Superchips is a franchise and the guy doing the remap (flashing the software via a laptop) may not necasary know anything about your car, where as the guys at carbon live and breath it and the software developers are on site and will even explain which of the 100's of maps in the ecu they have modified and why. I was even allowed to sit in the office watching while the guy (Nick) was editing my map.
The customer service was amazing where as at superchips I sat in a waiting room for an hour and was then given the keys back and waved off.

Junior wrote:

Mav
I had a Superchip map put on my 57reg from new, they over cooked the torque resulting in a exploding gearbox at 26k miles (18mths old). the car was fast tho
I recently had my Passat done by Carbon In Altrincham and the result is truly amazing, I would say a better result than on my Fl2, Carbon also buy cars for research and development including a Fl2 and a Disco. They had an M3 an AMG merc and a Black cab on test when I was there

Superchips is a franchise and the guy doing the remap (flashing the software via a laptop) may not necasary know anything about your car, where as the guys at carbon live and breath it and the software developers are on site and will even explain which of the 100's of maps in the ecu they have modified and why. I was even allowed to sit in the office watching while the guy (Nick) was editing my map.
The customer service was amazing where as at superchips I sat in a waiting room for an hour and was then given the keys back and waved off.

Mav71 wrote:

A franchised dealer will read the file from the customers car, send it to superchips, they then re-write it and send it back to the dealer to install..