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Paul_S



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Waiting time for lease car?

It's been a month from placing an order for a FL2
an I still have no info on a lead time for it.
It's been ordered, I received an email to confirm this.

Has anyone else got a FL2 as a lease car and what was your
Lead time?

Post #115190 30th Sep 2011 8:56 am
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shilen



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A reputable leasing company should know before you sign on the dotted line when delivery can be expected even if it is a factory build as they deal with all the major players day in day out. I ordered my FL2 in November last year with a delivery date of end of March, actually got it 2 weeks earlier.

HOWEVER when I was considering an Audi Q5 ( Embarassed ) the leasing company told me that waiting lists meant delivery would be 9 months away!! Another leasing company, probably hungry for an order, said 'no problems we can get you one in 3 or 4 months'.

Strangely I could have had an XC60 'off the shelf' Whistle Now - 2017 BMW X3 M Sport Carbon Black
Gone - 2014 BMW X3 M Sport Space Grey, faultless!
Gone - 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Bali Blue with xenons
Gone - 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Rimini Red with bodykit

Post #115200 30th Sep 2011 9:55 am
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Paul_S



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I'm getting it through NHS fleet solution. Not sure what lease company they order through. I have just called them and asked for an update they still don't know so are going the chase it up. They don't order many landrovers apparently.

Post #115227 30th Sep 2011 2:13 pm
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richardk



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I ordered a British built lease car (Nissan) in March...the car arrived tail end of August....from one of the major lease companies...many German cars have much longer lease times. Unless it is in stock then minimum 3 to 4 months.

Post #115275 30th Sep 2011 8:00 pm
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Tigger



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My own lease car took the usual 3 month. I ordered it direct from the lease company, but arranged for them to source it with a local dealer, so I was able to deal with them for delivery dates.

I would imagine that the NHS's purchasing policies might not allow any margin for decent service regarding delivery dates....

Post #115287 30th Sep 2011 9:08 pm
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Paul_S



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Just had email from fleet solutions saying that " the leasing company are having problems agreeing a supply price with land rover" so as a consequence even though the order was placed about six weeks ago the car has still not been ordered from LR yet. Look like it will be well into 2012 before I will be getting hold of it.

Post #116753 13th Oct 2011 5:04 pm
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I ordered my TD4 GS in Orkney Grey in mid-May via Arval leasing. It arrived at the end of September which was about three weeks later than the expected delivery date.

Just about to have some covert and grille lights fitted as it's an emergency vehicle. The blue magnetic light on the roof isn't that effective as it's too high. Grille and dashlight LED strobes are much more effective at clearing traffic.

Post #116771 13th Oct 2011 7:46 pm
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How did you manage to get NHS leasing to allow you a FL2?

I was told that all vehicles had to have <140g CO2 to be leased and the Freelie is just over. Stupid green propaganda, I work in the Highlands and have to go from Ft William to Skye twice a fortnight, no matter the weather.

Post #116772 13th Oct 2011 7:52 pm
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Paul_S



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i work in Newcastle and as far as I'm aware NHS fleet solutions here don't have any restrictions on the car you order, you tell them what car you want and what extras and they come back and tell you how much.

Post #116781 13th Oct 2011 8:24 pm
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12 weeks

Post #116796 13th Oct 2011 9:22 pm
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richardk



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Paul_S wrote:
i work in Newcastle and as far as I'm aware NHS fleet solutions here don't have any restrictions on the car you order, you tell them what car you want and what extras and they come back and tell you how much.


Indeed I think that's correct..it's the NHS organisation that employs you that sets the criteria on the vehile..the lease co can get you anything but your employer may restrict that choice.

Post #116801 13th Oct 2011 9:45 pm
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I'll have a whinge when I get back in on Monday and see if I get anywhere. Very Happy
Isn't there a tax break at 140g, maybe that's the answer.

Post #116884 14th Oct 2011 9:20 pm
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Bottom wrote:
I'll have a whinge when I get back in on Monday and see if I get anywhere. Very Happy
Isn't there a tax break at 140g, maybe that's the answer.


There are two scales of tax (none of them seem a break!) - the first is the differing level of VED (car tax based on CO2 emissions) and the second is the BIK (Benefit in Kind) which again is on a sliding scale based on CO2 emissions. This is where you pay more income tax (through the alteration of your tax code). The higher the CO2 the higher the percentage of your cars list price you get taxed on each year. Just to add to the pain...they adjust the tax/CO2 levels each year just to make sure you may more each year.

One often forgotten element of the BIK is that if you make any personal contribution to the cost of the lease car then this can be deducted from the BIK that is due.

Useful link http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cars/rule-changes.htm

Employers, particularly public sector, are being tasked to reduce their CO2 emissions...one highly visible area is to force staff into lower CO2 vehicles so they set year on year reductions in max CO2 permitted for lease cars. Personally I think that is wrong if you are paying for the lease car for personal mileage...different if it is a business use only car I agree.

Post #116923 15th Oct 2011 8:25 am
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Tigger



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The CO2 based BIK scale is something that's dear to my heart too.

What I find frustrating is that I'm charged around £250 a month CO2 based BIK tax, yet the cost to offset the total CO2 output for its manufacture and the first 45,000 miles (about 18 months for me) is only £75! Rolling Eyes

Somehow, the BIK figures seem out of all proportion to the environmental cost of the CO2 output.

Post #116925 15th Oct 2011 9:33 am
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Paul_S



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I will be paying arround £100 per month BIK when every it arrives. I am able to pay for the car through salary sacrifice so the saving i make on tax and NI make it not so bad.

Post #116926 15th Oct 2011 10:12 am
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