In today's post was the Switzerland LR Owners magazine - TRIBUNE.

In it, it states that as of end July LR had received 18,000 orders for the Evoke. And, that they (LR) had already shipped to their global dealer network 3,000.

It also stated that 50% of the components used in the Evoke are UK sourced

-o0o-

However, in Tribune every Land Rover model was featured - except the FL2. This was clearly not for space reasionsd as they did a double page spread on LR sponsoring a horse racing event here in CH. Oh what jolly jodhpurs

Put those two items together and you know now that FL2 is at the bottom of the LR food chain folks - no wonder delivery dates are the subject of much discussion.

Was over in Swiss last week for a week. Distinct lack of FL2s- couple of FL1s, occasional FL2 no MY11s. A few FFRRs, loads of RRSs and one disco4....loads of Porsches on steroids and big American nasties...
Am so jealous of you living there. Hoping to get back out soon

MM
If you are in the east of Switzerland let me know in advance - happy to buy you an expensive cup of coffee n cake, or sort out any logistics etc.

Re LR's here. Freelander are not great sellers due to the dreadful unreliability of the FL1 and in most part to the very high premium you have to pay for a FL2 above all its class competitors. Defenders were banned for many years for failure to meet Swiss emission controls - latest generation Defenders are available and are a cult purchase for townies who've ran out of things to spend their money on. Less than 30 new units were sold in 2010.

In our Kantone we have a good representation of old Series 11 & 111 plus 90 & 110 Defenders 99% of which are of course second hand. There are now 3 other FL2's. I've seen a couple of new D4's + RRS 2 and FFRR1.

Overall in CH best seller is the RRS - next FFRR followed by D4's. Discovery did not do as well as expected due to previous generations being of poor quality vis-a-vis the competition but D4 does seem to be gaining Swiss fans. All LR models are very expensive - base model starting prices - this morning's FX rates:

Defender: GBP30k
FL2: GBP38k
Evoke: GBP33k (TD4 Man)
D4: GBP50k
RRS: GBP58k
FFRR: GBP91k

That must be for a decent spec FL2 surely? Freelander 2 TD4 Auto, SE, Narvik Black, Alpaca full leather, Rear Headrest Entertainment System, 6 CD, 18 HSE Wheels, Privicy tints

Captain Worm wrote:

That must be for a decent spec FL2 surely?

 Freelander 2 TD4 Auto, SE, Narvik Black, Alpaca full leather, Rear Headrest Entertainment System, 6 CD, 18 HSE Wheels, Privicy tints

athelstan wrote:

Re LR's here. Freelander are not great sellers due to the dreadful unreliability of the FL1 and in most part to the very high premium you have to pay for a FL2 above all its class competitors.

Athelstan - Does it mean that LR and other British products will become even more expensive in CH as your central bank sell currency to weaken it or have I got that the wrong way around?

I think there was a 10% swing in favour of the euro and sterling during the past 24hours. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

tenet wrote:

Athelstan - Does it mean that LR and other British products will become even more expensive in CH as your central bank sell currency to weaken it or have I got that the wrong way around?

I think there was a 10% swing in favour of the euro and sterling during the past 24hours.

alex_pescaru wrote:

Will see how Evoque will be...
If you look at the Topix website, already there are Special Service Messages and Updates Prior Sales for several issues on the Evoque. And here in Romania, the Evoque was not even launched yet...
1. UPS 3311-1 - Potential Software and Vehicle Updates
2. Q154 UPS 4711-2 - Incorrect DVD Region Code
3. Q153 UPS 4611-2 - Stripped Thread on Upper Engine Mount
4. Q151 UPS 4011-1 - Fixed Height Tow Bar (VPLVT0066)
5. Q149 UPS 3911-2 - Harness Chafe Due To Engine Movement/Vibration
6. SSM51897 - Navigation Screen Inop
7. SSM51277 - False Flagging DTC
8. SSM51137 - Fuel Sender Resistance Reading
And the list will continue for sure....

GOSH

Athelstan, Mr MM has a pad up the valley from interlaken, is that anywhere near to you?
Will be back out in a few weeks time before lifts close. Would be good to have a Swiss meet up
although we'll have a dire car lol

MightyMildred wrote:

Athelstan, Mr MM has a pad up the valley from interlaken, is that anywhere near to you?
Will be back out in a few weeks time before lifts close. Would be good to have a Swiss meet up
although we'll have a dire car lol

MM
Near? Depends on time of year as the only mountain pass out of here is closed from October to late April.

Summer 140kms: Interlaken > Innerkirchen > Sustenpass 7,400ft asl > Altdorf > Klausenpass 6,400ft asl into Kt. Glarus.
Winter 200kms: Interlaken > Brünigpass 3,200ft asl > Stans > Altdorf > Schwyz > Sattelpass 3,000ft asl > Pfäffikon > Zeigelbrücke > Kt.Glarus

Driving times: Winter - very weather dependent but approx 4hrs (very slow roads), Summer - very narrow twisty roads, great on a Ducati terrible in a FL2 - allow 2.5hrs.

Never speed in CH - the fines will cripple you. But an English chin way is always welcome and I'm sure summer or winter something could be worked out with a little forward planning

Cool,
Will pm you when we know when we're next coming over. If there is anything you miss from GB let us know, we can always sumuggle you some english tea bags!
Last Friday we did the grimsel pass and over to the rhonegletcher. Mr MM was very upset at how the glacier is receeding. It's the first time I've been over that way and it was alarming to hear about the rates of glacial melt.
Re the exchange rate, in the village the locals tell us it's really quiet and luxury brands (the watch places especially) just aren't selling. One lovely lady was really worried about her business due to the lack of tourists. The gondolas were really quiet and there was no que for the firstflieger (only good thing about there being no tourists- no que for the best ride in the world!)
Mr MM takes all the reponsibility for driving thank goodness! I don't mind driving my car on the 'wrong' side of the road but can't quite get my head around changing gear with my right hand! Hahaha.

MightyMildred if your not travelling over to Swiss land before the 14th October, then there's a good chance you'll bump in to athelstan and family at Halewood

MM
Being a motorcyclist for +40yrs I never had a problem being on the left or the right side of the road - apparently I was always on the wrong side of the road according to the tin box brigade. Yeeha

However I did know one young Austrian lady, to whom, (on an occasion when visiting me back home then in Derbyshire in the 80's) I lent her my the manual RR. Within a few yards of driving up the farm track she promptly opened the car's driver's door and wacked it on a dry stone wall instead of using her "left" hand to reach for the gear lever. Romance was never smooth with her - it didn't last.