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stooby



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Standing Water

I was driving through a deep puddle that covered the road the other day. I wasn't going fast.
The water got thrown out to the sides but also out in front of the car, up over the bonnet and onto the windscreen.
It happens a lot. It also used to happen on the Range rover Classic I used to have (the beast that got me into this Land Rover malarky). It did exactly the same.
So I was thinking what it is about both cars that causes the water to be thrown up over the windscreen like that. It's actually quite dangerous. On a recent trip I was going through a very heavy thunderstorm and the roads were like rivers. i was down to 30mph or less and the wipers were struggling to keep the windscreen clear.

So is it the ground clearance that allows the water to be thrown forward like that? I never really had the problem on 'normal' cars.

Stuart

Post #112469 8th Sep 2011 10:15 am
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new fl2 have 'mudflaps' in front of the front wheels which apparently reduce this splash, they can be bought separately from dealers and fit older cars too, not sure if the fit with the 'sports' kit?

search on here for 'spats' as people call them At work
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Post #112474 8th Sep 2011 12:07 pm
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stooby



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Ahh...hmmm

Thanks for that. I've just had a look in other threads.

I have a MY2010 XS and I thought it had these but perhaps not so pronounced. I'll check when I go home tonight.

I was just wondering what the fluid dynamics were that caused it. When I should have been working.

Stuart

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have a look in this thread.

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic7538.html?highlight=bib+spoilers

Mav71's car has the bib spoiler in front of the wheel, these are new 2011 parts but can be fitted with a little stud on the spoiler been removed

I have them on mine, no wet winscreens from puddles now, and for about £12-£15 for both and 10 min fitment a worth while investment Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Post #112479 8th Sep 2011 12:59 pm
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stooby



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Thanks Npinks

I think I'll give those a try!


Stuart

Post #112487 8th Sep 2011 1:37 pm
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Another vote for the bib spoilers. I might have well been driving through a river on my way up the M6 in August but the only water on the screen was falling from the sky. Thumbs Up

Post #112504 8th Sep 2011 6:49 pm
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The Doctor



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Re: Standing Water

stooby wrote:
I was driving through a deep puddle that covered the road the other day. I wasn't going fast.
The water got thrown out to the sides but also out in front of the car, up over the bonnet and onto the windscreen.
It happens a lot.


Good point as I can testify in these 4 videos (the first 2 videos are poor quality from an old mobile):







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Post #112506 8th Sep 2011 7:11 pm
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Tigger



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So, that's what they were for!! I took them off on the first day I had the car, knowing that I was going green laning and not wanting to damage the front bumper on rutted mud and rocks. Now I get HUGE splashes over the bonnet and windscreen Very Happy

Post #112508 8th Sep 2011 7:19 pm
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ad210358



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Any vehicle that has high ground clearance suffers from this, as you go through water it will splash in all directions, on a standard saloon car the forward thrown water hits the front valance or hits the inner wheel arch, but on a vehicle with higher ground clearance there is nothing for the water to hit so the water that is thrown forwards and you drive into your own splashed water.

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Kostaschrys



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The procedure is exactly as ad210358 described.
The higher the ground clearance and the approach angle the more water you splash on your car. It's a good advice when are standing water on the road to have the sunroof closed as well as the windows.

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and the doors Thumbs Up

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stooby



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Thanks folks

Thanks ad210358 and Kostaschrys.
That's how I imagined it.
I'll be trying out a set of spats I think. If they make such a big difference and they're cheap it's a no brainer!

One more question though? Has anyone who has them fitted had any problems with them in the snow?

Stuart

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Yes, green laning it reduces clearance and approach angle before the wheel can mount the obstruction and deepish snow, they bend but seems to return to their original position.

Post #112563 9th Sep 2011 8:35 am
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The Doctor



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I just had a quote from Stratstone Nottingham for mud flaps.

£154 + VAT for front not Inc fitting

£154 + VAT for back not Inc fitting

£130 to fit the front ones and £99 to fit the back ones. That's a total of nearly £600.

The guy said 'when shall we book you in?'
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I fitted these, excellent quality and fit and very easy to fit. also slighty cheaper Exclamation

http://www.direct4x4.co.uk/c-76-mud-flaps.aspx

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