OK, I've had a couple of days to place with the Sat Nav, and I think I've pretty much got to grips with it. For basic functionality, I think the manual's pretty good and the system itself is quite intuitive. However, a couple of the more advanced features aren't documented that well and took a bit of working out (or maybe I was just being thick). Getting POIs to appear on the map was a challenge in itself!

Since you guys pointed out that you adjust the volume from the radio controls, I'm only left with two questions (for now):

RDS/TMC

There's a setting from the Navigation Setup Menu to decide whether you want to use TMC and allows you to configure it. However, one you've planned a route, if you go to the Route Options, where you choose what types of road to use or not use, you can also select/deselect RDS/TMC. It's not just another way of accessing the same setting, changing it doesn't affect the TMC setting in the Nav Setup Menu. So what's the point of having this setting? Especially as it seemed to be set "off" on first use, so if I hadn't found it I think I would have been under the impression that TMC was active, when actually is wasn't because it needs activating in two different places. So what's the point of having it as a route option?

Average Speed

There's an option that lets you reset the average speed to defaults, but no explanation of what this is actually about. Does it use these average speeds for journey time planning, perhaps calculating that you average 65mph on motorways and 50 on A-class roads? Or is it even cleverer and records an average speed for specific roads (e.g. 60mph on the M1 and 65mpg on the M6), or even particular sections of road? Anyone any idea?



Did experience an odd sat nav quirk today. I was driving along a country lane which had a layby on the left. just a gravel/mud area at the side of the road about 3 car-lengths long. The sat nav tried to route me via the actual layby as if it was a section of dual carriageway

I know what you mean with the TMC system, i think it is a really good system, but it is its early stages of development at the moment

Driving up the A1 i was in very slow moving traffic, it told me that there was a accident up ahead and then gave me the option to avoid, since i had just gone past the junction of the said accident, I had no option but to wait, only to find the accident was at the next juntion. if it gave an earlier warning i could have come off at the 1st junction drove through Catterick and come back on after the accident.

I would have missed the bloke with a knee the size of a melon been put into the back of an ambulance, but would have been 20mins further up the A1.

On the routing options, i hate when it wants to take me off the motorway and drive round the roundabout and back on to the motorway i was already on.

Can't help with the technical questions NightFox as my TMC is alreday on, but I too have suffered those invisible roads which are actually laybys, Ampthill to Bedford for has one, and I have also had the on off at a motorway slip road. I think as we say just use them as a guide, pretend it is your wife map reading treat with caution and always question instructions if it feels wrong

Definitely taking a bit of getting used to after my TomTom. The one thing I miss (although I haven't trawled through the manual to see if it can be changed) is the variable warning distances. ie on the TomTom, the faster you go, the more warning it gves you before a route change. With the LR version, you can be storming along overtaking when it suddenly announces that in 1/4 of a mile you need to come off the autoroute .

I know it gives a readout of how far to the next route change, but I do like to rely on the voice commands rather than regularly staring at the display .

Anyone have a different experience?

Re the TMC & Traffic Alerts, they do take a while to be updated. I decided to ignore the warning of delays and when I got to the area, not a delay in sight!

You're right, there's no way to change the warning distance. Driving around recently, when I was still using my TomTom and particularly on motorways I noticed what I called the "TomTom phenomenum" where AGES before a junction (more or less 1.4 miles) you suddenly get people frantically trying to squeeze into Lane 1, and invariably as you get close you can see the TT on their windscreens. It's as if they hear the "take the next exit" and don't actually take the time to think that they've actually still got a good minute and a half to sort themselves out.

I also wonder how much Sat Nav has changed road usage - I bet there's country lanes that barely ever used to see a car, but now TomTom (or any other Sat Nav) considers them a optimal route. I know I certainly regualrly drive down several minor roads that I would never have ventured down "on my own"

Maybe it is the Government who have given the satnav companies this info to reduce traffic congestion. The number of housing estaes I have driven through after pulling off dual carriageways, especially round Milton Keynes is amazing.......all to save 4 seconds on a journey time

NightFox wrote:

I know I certainly regualrly drive down several minor roads that I would never have ventured down "on my own"

Picked up my Freelander 2 SE in Jun and on first trip up the A1 noticed that the Bedford Bypass off Black Cat roundabout doesn't appear, not bad for a road that opened in 2006.

Also noticed that the Oakham Bypass in Rutland is missing one section of the road and that opened in Dec 06.

Not happy about prospect of paying £150.00 for an updated DVD after less than 3 months.

ok guys, if this is of any comfort to you, the Greece DVD is still not available! Comming soon, I hope. Minor 'glitch', I guess.
By the way I've read that Sat Nav on Disco3 and RRS give you contour lines when off roading and altitude meter. Are these available in our FL2's?

Defkalion my old friend....do you have any roads left in Greece to register on the satnav after the fires

The roads are still there Carl. Could show them in dark gray!

I'm glad you can still laugh my friend. Seriously, from the news and your pm's it has not been good. Make sure you stay in your well

Can anyone please let me know the exact model of the Sat Nav system in the LR2?
Is it possible to do your own software upgrades? Any specific websites that i should visit?

It's made by a company called Denso. Not sure of the model number though. They do have a technical email address on their site, so you mya be able to get more info from that.

Thanks for the info
thanks.